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Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:59 pm
by goose
I'm with Den and SFGal.....
Those charts are so much BS put out by insurance companies so they can charge you more money for coverage based on "their" determination you're not healthy (someone else could use the same statistics to make exactly the opposite point).....Just like they make medical decisions instead of allowing doctors perform that task.....

If I was at the top end of "normal" with a BMI of 24 I'd be anorexic.....My BMI by the chart is 31. I played football at a BMI of 29 on this chart.....Hike up the pants because it's already too late for the shoes and socks......

I admit to carrying a bit of extra poundage (I've lost 30 and have 30 more to go), but I'm in halfway decent shape despite not exercising formally -- farm aerobics....you can't cut large trees, buck them up, haul them up a hill into a truck then split and stack it all and not be in some semblance of reasonable condition...... (Confucious say: "Man who split wood by hand, warmed by it twice!!" ) At 58 (almost 59) I keep trying to tell myself I'm getting to old for this stuff, but when I actually think about it, I enjoy the task - I've been doing it since I was in my 20's.
I also buck 120lb-140lb bales of horse feed into the barn and depending on how I feel I'll stack 'em 4 high......

Charts are good for killing trees (when printed), but not much else......
Just my $.02 again......

cheers
goose

Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:13 pm
by Kiralynx
Wulfman wrote:
Kiralynx wrote:And that is one of the places where BMI, Body Mass Index, falls down. It does not take into account people who are stocky or who are otherwise well-muscled. <snip>
Absolutely!
Another thing the "charts" don't take into consideration is "bone structure" (or mass). At a weight of about 210 (I'm 6' 1"), I would be (and have been) "skin and bones". Well, that was about 25 years and quite a few pounds ago, but I don't consider myself "obese". I have very low cholesterol numbers but I know much thinner people who have HIGH cholesterol numbers.

These stupid charts were invented for insurance and medical categorizations and they don't give a complete picture of a person's health.
Indeed, they don't. After all, Marilyn Monroe was not FAT. But she was a Size 14 -- and today, size 14 is considered fat.

Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:17 pm
by CorgiGirl
Kiralynx wrote:Indeed, they don't. After all, Marilyn Monroe was not FAT. But she was a Size 14 -- and today, size 14 is considered fat.
Yes, Marilyn wore a size 14...unfortunately, a 14 then is not the same as a 14 now.

That's because size standards for both women and men have changed over the decades. For example, a woman who wears a size 8 now would have worn a size 12 or 14 in 1940. Marilyn Monroe would likely have worn a size 6 or 8 in today's sizes. These links provide some background info on the issue:

http://reviews.ebay.com/Taking-the-Myst ... 0001392879
http://www.justsaywhen.com/Vintage-101-Sizing.htm
http://www.dressthatman.com/pages/x_sizing.htm

I started out at today's size 22 and I'll be happy to get back down into today's size 14's...one size to go, so I'm almost there!

Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:17 pm
by Kiralynx
CorgiGirl wrote:I started out at today's size 22 and I'll be happy to get back down into today's size 14's...one size to go, so I'm almost there!
Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.

Even so, I know that my mom, whose size hasn't changed in 40+ years, still wears a 8-10... go figure.

Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:22 pm
by CorgiGirl
Kiralynx wrote:Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.
That's wonderful, Kiralynx! You go, girl!

Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:28 pm
by Kiralynx
CorgiGirl wrote:
Kiralynx wrote:Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.
That's wonderful, Kiralynx! You go, girl!
It's taken seven years, but I've lost 180 pounds. Just wish it wouldn't take another 7 years to lose the rest. I'm decidedly not feeling Bibilical when it comes to 7 years labor and all that, as regards weight loss!