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My boss is 45 years old. He just quit smoking because he was diagnosed with the beginnings of emphysema. Don't be in the same boat he is. He is currently using the nicotine inhalers and will hopefully be permanently off in a few months.

I only posted about the weight because my Primary Health Care Doctor implied that Sleep apnea was partially caused by being overweight, although he did say that people who had the apnea treated found it easier to lose weight (also a host of other things, like quit smoking, lose weight, more energy, etc.)

Actually Slinky, the health consequences of cigarette smoking are grabbing far more of your tax dollars than obesity, particularly considering the synergistic effects of smoking with anything else that might happen to be wrong with you, and the way cigs potentiate so many other toxins. And while I neither smoke nor am I obese, so I don't have a horse in that particular race, I've got to tell you something many smokers would find hard to believe: a single person smoking in a restaurant and seated far away from me can ruin my meal. The smell is that strong.

And to semi repeat myself, no one ever got sick from second-hand fat. Well, in all honesty there's any number of ways that last statement interpreted loosely would be untrue, the most interesting of which might be that people with friends who are mostly obese tend to become so themselves. But of course as we all know, correlation doesn't beget causation.

Slinky wrote:

Raj wrote:Really Slinky? Personally, I don't worry much about second-hand fat. Non-smoker here and have a pipeline to cutting-edge research on the cumulative effects of cigs that makes me grateful I never got addicted.

Well, obesity takes as much of my tax dollars and medicare dollars, etc. as smoking does so ....

No, it doesn't. You're just repeating anti-fat talking points and are lashing out wildly at the first group you thought of (fat people) because you think this poll is discriminating against you as a smoker.

Raj mentioned that fat people don't give off toxic fumes that others near them must inhale against their will, and only did so in response to you attacking fat people because you felt attacked. If you don't like hearing the kinds of things Raj says, then maybe you should stop trying to vilify another group of people because you feel vilified yourself.

Meanwhile, Bucko, I have to question why the poll was even posted. Is smoking related to sleep apnea? How? And what purpose does this poll serve?

I don't care what anyone does to their body. Someone has a huge pile of food on their plate? Not my business. Smoke, drink, do drugs, tattoo their nether regions, dress up in a Pokemon costume and have orgies? I do not care. As long as no one forces me to inhale their pot/tobacco/whatever smoke, as long as no one drives while under the influence, as long as no one is at work while impaired, etc. then it's none of my concern.

I quit a year ago and would still give my right arm for cigarettes. I don't dare have one because I know I'd want more and more and more. Beyond that, I'm having surgery in a month and smoking and surgery don't mix.

I only smoke about 5 a day on working days i.e 6 days out of 10 so not that much. The sleep consultant said it didn';t make much difference to the OSA or CPAP treatment aside from usual breathing issues

Slinky is just a cranky old lady … maybe we should discriminate on age and sex too

Seriously though, I’m very sensitive to tobacco smoke so I feel I have a right to be snide when smokers intrude on the air I breathe. I have to run the gauntlet of smokers hanging outside the only doors into or out of the office building where I work. My dad had undiagnosed OSA but it was his smoking that won the race to his grave when he died of throat cancer in 2001 at age 67.

Anyway, here is an interesting and timely article relating to many of the posts on this thread –

http://health.usnews.com/articles/healt ... ading.html

I smoked for maybe 6 months many years ago as a rebellious teenager... but not since. I never did like the taste or smell.

Now I cannot stand the smell of cigarette smoke and am so happy I never got hooked given the health effects it has. I will never berate those who do smoke but please don't do it around me.

...and yes I'm overweight but working diligently on that... losing it that is.

It should be interesting what with the holidays and all that good food approaching very quickly... or should I say challenging rather than interesting?

stacia123 Wrote:"
Raj wrote:
Really Slinky? Personally, I don't worry much about second-hand fat. Non-smoker here and have a pipeline to cutting-edge research on the cumulative effects of cigs that makes me grateful I never got addicted.
Well, obesity takes as much of my tax dollars and medicare dollars, etc. as smoking does so ....

No, it doesn't. You're just repeating anti-fat talking points and are lashing out wildly at the first group you thought of (fat people) because you think this poll is discriminating against you as a smoker. "
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Actually I brought up the weight issue, since I am about 60lbs over weight, and as I mentioned in my earlier post, my GP doctor thinks this
is the cause/has contributed to my sleep Apnea, So I though a poll on how many people on this site with sleep apnea are over weight.

Best regards

stacia123 wrote: . . . Raj mentioned that fat people don't give off toxic fumes . . .

I'm fat. And sometimes I give off fumes.

stacia123 wrote: . . . Is smoking related to sleep apnea? How? And what purpose does this poll serve? . . .

I think you answered your own question with a question. The purpose the poll serves is as an informal assessment as to whether smoking might be related to sleep apnea. I think it may have been done in much the same spirit as an earlier left hand vs. right hand poll.:

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. . . lashing out wildly . . .

Uh, I don't think so. Not at all. She doesn't do that.

jeff

jnk wrote:

. . . lashing out wildly . . .

Uh, I don't think so. Not at all. She doesn't do that.

jeff

Well except just before she is about to push someone down a flight of stairs

Slinky wrote:What gets me is heavy set people w/their dinner plate stacked to the roof making snide remarks about smokers a few tables away. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.

The only complaints I have about some smokers (Note I said some! Not all!). They just throw there butts everywhere expecting other to pick them up, deliberately blow smoke in to faces of non smokers and other reasons! But you are free to smoke all you want, just not in my house..

DreasmStalker, is THAT where Snoredog is?

I think it might be interesting to find out if the smokers are slender or overweight. I remember reading that young women in college smoked because it helped to keep their weight down. Maybe cigarettes substituted for snacks. If the smokers are slim yet have OSA, it might mean that the smoking could overcome the impact that OSA has on weight gain.

It could be possible that the smoke irritates the airway, and somehow aggravates OSA.

Nah, I don't give them slinky people any warning - they get near a staircase and I PUSH 'em down!!! Strike whilst the iron's hot, you know!

I have to agree about the slobs tossing their cigarette butts everywhere!!! At least in the days before the darn filtered cigarettes the butts dissapated in the weather w/in a few days.