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rooster wrote:

Marietjie wrote: .........Rooster, three passages....and three mouths ? ....

It would be a boon for cosmetic manufacurers.

And fast food franchises. Jim

I am one of those who blow up like a balloon at night. Of course the pat answer is "you are swallowing air" which is pure nonsense. I have read that an autoflex CPAP works better for those of us with gas as it doesn't spend all night at the higher pressure. Has anyone had experience with these kinds of machines? My HMO has denied my request but I haven't given up.

Actually with normal breathing we breath out MORE than we breath in, in terms of volume. A fixed volume of cool air enters the lungs, expands due to the lungs being warmer than room air, and a higher volume of air is exhaled.

discusdoc wrote:Actually with normal breathing we breath out MORE than we breath in, in terms of volume. A fixed volume of cool air enters the lungs, expands due to the lungs being warmer than room air, and a higher volume of air is exhaled.

And if you are walking Old Mumbai in 120 degrees F?

tomjax wrote:You are making a false assumption.
All that air is the result of pressure on an unopposed empty air space.
When you put the mask on, it becomes a closed system and the pressure is equalized.

Some have even written about all that air rushing down their nose.
It does not.

There is an increase in PRESSURE, not velocity.
The amt of air inhaled is the same, the pressure is greater.

Tom, Tom, Tom, you have obviously never seen the campfire scene from the documentary Blazing Saddles

linda b wrote:Where does all the air go?

Snoredog wrote: Tom, Tom, Tom, you have obviously never seen the campfire scene from the documentary Blazing Saddles

Thanks to youtube it is only an investment of 56 seconds of your time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs

If they would sit closer to the campfire, it would get burned off quickly.

Soak them beans all day next time!

If laughter is the best medicine, then this thread was very medicinal. Got a good chuckle. Thanks
Don

discusdoc wrote:Actually with normal breathing we breath out MORE than we breath in, in terms of volume. A fixed volume of cool air enters the lungs, expands due to the lungs being warmer than room air, and a higher volume of air is exhaled.

I am glad you explained that heating up increased the vol, when I started to read it, I thought my toenails were being sucked back into my feet but the resulting vacuum. Jim

I heard a delicious rumor (and I think it may be closer to fact) that at least one of the CPAP manufacturers is finally recognizing that aerophagia is a problem with many CPAP users. DUH! Apparently they will be looking into what machines should be recommended for the gas many of us experience. After years of the vanilla treatment (one machine fits all) perhaps all of the many forms that our apnea takes will be treated accordingly. I am also delighted to report that my HMO is expanding its sleep lab to a "department" level and has people who can really talk to you about the disorder. One of the things I learned today is that a new medical term is needed to replace "swallowing" when aerophagia is discussed. When the doctors say you are "swallowing air" it's not like you are swallowing a liquid....the term "swallowing" as the "experts" use it is rather vague and refers to ingesting of air whether voluntary or involuntary. Any ideas about what else we could call it? Maybe simply "ingesting air" as a result of a weak sphincter muscle due to a hiatal hernia. That makes sense to me.

Perhaps the drug companies will come up with a pill we take before bed, as we swallow it, it expands to the size of a golf ball,, and closes off the tube to the stomach for 8 hours, then we would take another pill to disolve the first pill. Maybe it could be bought in bulk and used for dieting. Jim

Goofproof wrote:Perhaps the drug companies will come up with a pill we take before bed, as we swallow it, it expands to the size of a golf ball,, and closes off the tube to the stomach for 8 hours, then we would take another pill to disolve the first pill. Maybe it could be bought in bulk and used for dieting. Jim

GP, I think you are on to something.

Fritzgla, I never expected to see "delicious" and "aerophagia" in the same sentence.