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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:18 am
by Guest
Amontilado - Anything on a barbecue grill is good food.
Tell me why it's important to bake the sweet potato rather than nuke it. My Mom is a big fan of nuking her veggies. BUT, she does it smart, and doesn't turn them into mush. Potatoes are started in the nuke, then finished in the convection oven - takes half the time of straight baking. Just about every other veggie is steamed in the nuke in a covered casserole dish (Can you say "Corning Ware" boys and girls?) with a scant bit of water and some seasoning. Comes out wonderful.
I wonder if your preference for oven over wave is TASTE or NUTRITION, which is why I ask.
Thanks guys for all the great tips!!!! Keep 'em coming!!!!
Babs
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:39 am
by roster
Anonymous wrote:.......... Gee, if I wanted to drink a bucket of snot, I can think of lots more fun ways to go about it.
........
Well give us some tips!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:58 am
by DreamStalker
rooster wrote:Anonymous wrote:.......... Gee, if I wanted to drink a bucket of snot, I can think of lots more fun ways to go about it.
........
Well give us some tips!
Forgive him ... for he knows not what he asks
Microwave danger
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:05 am
by sagesteve
Valentine published the results of this study in Search for Health in the Spring of 1992. But the follow-up information is available only in a later edition, and also in Acres, USA.
In intervals of two to five days, the volunteers in the study received one of the food variants on an empty stomach. The food variants were: raw milk from a biofarm (no. 1); the same milk conventionally cooked (no. 2); pasteurised milk from Intermilk Berne (no. 3); the same raw milk cooked in a microwave oven (no. 4); raw vegetables from an organic farm (no. 5); the same vegetables cooked conventionally (no. 6); the same vegetables frozen and defrosted in the microwave oven (no. 7); and the same vegetables cooked in the microwave oven (no. . The overall experiment had some of the earmarks of the Pottenger cat studies, except that now human beings were test objects, the experiment's time-frame was shorter, and a new heat form was tested.
Once the volunteers were isolated at the resort hotel, the test began. Blood samples were taken from every volunteer immediately before eating. Then blood samples were taken at defined intervals after eating from the above-numbered milk or vegetable preparations.
Significant changes were discovered in the blood of the volunteers who consumed foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a decrease in all haemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratio. Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators point in a direction away from robust health and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food. This led Hertel to the conclusion that such technically derived energies may, indeed, be passed along to man inductively via consumption of microwaved food.
I've seen similar studies before. DO NOT MICROWAVE your food!! The heat is WAAAAY over the top and turns things into garbage at a molecular level.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:30 am
by Guest
DreamStalker, can you PM Rooster some porn sites to clue him in to what he's missing?
LOL,
Babs - the Very Bad Indeed
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:33 am
by Guest
SageSteve, interesting reading. I'll have to contemplate that for awhile. Giving up my Wave would be a significant lifestyle change for me.
But then, I do love to flame-broil everything over Propane, so....
Thanks!
Babs - Relative and Customer of Hank Hill
Re: Microwave danger
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:38 am
by DreamStalker
[quote="sagesteve"]Valentine published the results of this study in Search for Health in the Spring of 1992. But the follow-up information is available only in a later edition, and also in Acres, USA.
In intervals of two to five days, the volunteers in the study received one of the food variants on an empty stomach. The food variants were: raw milk from a biofarm (no. 1); the same milk conventionally cooked (no. 2); pasteurised milk from Intermilk Berne (no. 3); the same raw milk cooked in a microwave oven (no. 4); raw vegetables from an organic farm (no. 5); the same vegetables cooked conventionally (no. 6); the same vegetables frozen and defrosted in the microwave oven (no. 7); and the same vegetables cooked in the microwave oven (no. . The overall experiment had some of the earmarks of the Pottenger cat studies, except that now human beings were test objects, the experiment's time-frame was shorter, and a new heat form was tested.
Once the volunteers were isolated at the resort hotel, the test began. Blood samples were taken from every volunteer immediately before eating. Then blood samples were taken at defined intervals after eating from the above-numbered milk or vegetable preparations.
Significant changes were discovered in the blood of the volunteers who consumed foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a decrease in all haemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratio. Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators point in a direction away from robust health and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food. This led Hertel to the conclusion that such technically derived energies may, indeed, be passed along to man inductively via consumption of microwaved food.
I've seen similar studies before. DO NOT MICROWAVE your food!! The heat is WAAAAY over the top and turns things into garbage at a molecular level.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:39 am
by DreamStalker
Anonymous wrote:DreamStalker, can you PM Rooster some porn sites to clue him in to what he's missing?
LOL,
Babs - the Very Bad Indeed
I don't have any idea about those kinds of sites ... you bad wicked girl!
Re: Microwave danger
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:43 am
by roster
sagesteve wrote:....... The food variants were: raw milk from a biofarm (no. 1); ..
1) Microwaving: I guess warming up will need to be done in pots on the range now.
2) I have drunk pasteurized skim milk for 30 years because some people convinced me it was good 30 years ago. Is this their damn kids who are now telling me that pasteurized skim milk is bad and I need to be drinking raw whole milk?
3) While we are bouncing around here let's hit soybeans. These kids are telling me soybean oil is bad! So what about tofu????
Maybe Woody Allen had it right in
Sleeper. The terminal study will show t-bone steaks and cream pies are the ultimate health foods.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:50 am
by roster
DreamStalker wrote:Anonymous wrote:DreamStalker, can you PM Rooster some porn sites to clue him in to what he's missing?
LOL,
Babs - the Very Bad Indeed
I don't have any idea about those kinds of sites ... you bad wicked girl!
I am only allowed to view apnea sites.
http://www.apneatic.com/home.php
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:06 am
by Guest
Man, I gotta see this when I get home! The work server replies:
"The site you requested is blocked under the following categories: Profanity, Provocative Attire"
LOL,
Babs
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:09 am
by Guest
Most of you have heard me say my Stepfather is disabled. Has been for 5 years. It's been pretty sad, since he's all there upstairs, he's just blind, deaf, and walks like a drunkard. It sucks to be him.
When everything else goes wrong in his life, we feed him pie. His tastebuds are like his last pleasure center. The family motto is now "Pie Makes Everything Better."
I would revise that to say "A Steak and Pie make Everything Better."
Or, WHAT ROOSTER SAID!!!!!
LOL,
Babs
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 am
by Amontilado
Anonymous wrote:Amontilado - Anything on a barbecue grill is good food.
Tell me why it's important to bake the sweet potato rather than nuke it. My Mom is a big fan of nuking her veggies. BUT, she does it smart, and doesn't turn them into mush. Potatoes are started in the nuke, then finished in the convection oven - takes half the time of straight baking. Just about every other veggie is steamed in the nuke in a covered casserole dish (Can you say "Corning Ware" boys and girls?) with a scant bit of water and some seasoning. Comes out wonderful.
I wonder if your preference for oven over wave is TASTE or NUTRITION, which is why I ask.
Thanks guys for all the great tips!!!! Keep 'em coming!!!!
Babs
Baking roasts the potato, briing out its natural sweetness (much like most vegetables), while nuking in the microwave just steams it, with the microwaves "energizing" the water molecules. Those few times I like a potato, baking or grilling is the preferred way. Try one each way and you'll see what I mean.
Steve
Re: Microwave danger
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:34 am
by Amontilado
rooster wrote:sagesteve wrote:....... The food variants were: raw milk from a biofarm (no. 1); ..
3) While we are bouncing around here let's hit soybeans. These kids are telling me soybean oil is bad! So what about tofu????
And edamame(Spelling?) for that matter. A great snack.
Steve
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:53 am
by Guest
I just don't feel like eating soy 24/7. I've heard it's one of the most genetically modified foods around. I'm suspicious of why it's in EVERYTHING from food to cosmetics. I feel very "soylent green" about it. I worry that it's the next HFCS.
That said, I'm contemplating replacing dairy in my life with soy, but also just cutting way back on the "dairy/soy" alltogether. Not that I eat a ton of it. Just the morning half n half in the coffee, and the ice cream. That's my biggest culprit. Oh, and butter. Love butter.
Though I must admit I really like Earth Balance non-GMO spread. Brought to you by the people who brought you Smart Balance, Earth Balance actually TASTES like butter, and not fish oil.
If you're from a culture that LOVES fish oil, try Smart Balance. My Japanese ex-boyfriend, who lives on soy, loves it.
LOL,
B.