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Is there any money to be made in doing research on this? I had suspected this for some time in my case but my sleep doc says that in the lab my SP02 saturation is good and dismissed any plausibility. However, is my SP02 good ALL the time? I dont think so. One overnight oximetry that I had not long ago courtesy of my DME said no. Too bad our cpap machines can't have built in SP02 sensors.

I agree with you on the SPO2 monitor!! It should be mandatory!

I've been thinking the same thing - even if SPO2s are good (mine was OK during the PSG but who knows what's it's like normally), the continual arousals and subsequent lack of sleep probably cause just as many cognitive problems. But it's probably harder to make the link between incidence of arousals and cognitive failure independent of SPO2 levels.

Although, are the arousals linked to lack of ability to achieve sleep levels like slow wave and REM sleep? What is the actual cause of low or no slow wave/REM sleep in untreated OSA?

echo wrote: Although, are the arousals linked to lack of ability to achieve sleep levels like slow wave and REM sleep? What is the actual cause of low or no slow wave/REM sleep in untreated OSA?

Another question that is debated or controversial is whether or not you need slow wave/REM sleep. Current guidelines are rubbish. My sleep doc's office has a poster that says as you get older you need less sleep. Psychologists and many researchers disagree much like up until the early 80's, physicians disagreed whether or not smoking was hazardous to your health, despite strong empirical evidence going back to the 30's showing that it is. It' won't be in our lifetime where sleep specialists will get their head out of their arse and start to be more open minded.

here ya go, this one will put one foot in the grave

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 075830.htm

let me know if there is a disorder they left out

Snoredog wrote:
let me know if there is a disorder they left out

Anxiety and depression.

Anonymous wrote:

Snoredog wrote:
let me know if there is a disorder they left out

Anxiety and depression.

And how does that make you feel?

ColinP, you never had anxiety or depression in your life so you have no idea how it makes one feel?

Anonymous wrote:ColinP, you never had anxiety or depression in your life so you have no idea how it makes one feel?

No, that's not what I meant. It was just a little play on words.

During my Bronchoscopy I had quit breathing 3 times and did not start again until he pulled the camera out through my nose, then put the oxygen mask on....no luck. He had to raise his voice, calling my name and telling me to breathe. After 3 straight times he terminated the procedure. One of my Pulmonologists told my wife "Get him off the morphine before it kills him."

We all attributed my memory loss to opiates. I have always been a Type A to the max. But I am struggling now. While we blamed the opiates, we also knew a loss of oxygen to the brain can cause problems.

Using the diagnosis of exclusion, I have CCHS. Short summary, when you go to bed your brain/CNS tells your heart to beat and tells you to breathe. Mine no longer tells me to breathe. I sleep on a ventilator, even for a nap. I am on oxygen again.

May 5th I fell asleep in a chair for a couple of hours until my Medic Alert Dog "alerted" my wife. Long story short, it took them approx. 30 minutes to wake me up. I knew they were there, I squeezed their hands when asked to do so, but I could not remember how to wake up. They cleared my airway, but I was either not breathing, or I was breathing so shallow I did not activate the Pressure Demand Regulator. Finally, they held my jaw closed, turned the oxygen pressure to Continuous and I woke up. How much damage was done to my brain? How can we determine any loss?

April 10th I had severe Oral Surgery. Later, I was "eating" soup, but could not remember how to swallow the liquid. I finally leaned forward to allow the liquid to fall into my bowl, then I poured it out.

How can we forget how to swallow? How can we know people are trying to wake us, yet not remember how? It has been over 2 months and I don't have a clue. I hope one of you has an idea.

This is heart breaking. I have had a lot of bad stuff happen in my life but I love life and there are a few things that still keep me going. Music I have found is the best therapy for someone who suffers from sleep apnea. Sleep apnea I have found makes it incredibly difficult to study and learn and it gets harder and harder as you get older. I am only in my late 20s but I am still around.

Sleep_Apnea_Sufferer wrote:This is heart breaking. I have had a lot of bad stuff happen in my life but I love life and there are a few things that still keep me going. Music I have found is the best therapy for someone who suffers from sleep apnea. Sleep apnea I have found makes it incredibly difficult to study and learn and it gets harder and harder as you get older. I am only in my late 20s but I am still around.

You do mean if you don't treat it?

If you treat apnea well and consistently with CPAP, you will be fine. You might want to read a bunch of success stories. There is a thread at the top of the home page.

Paul50 wrote:It is everyone's business to stay healthy. Check blood pressure regulator and monitor sugar level. All these things counts. Sometimes, I do use the blood pressure calculator to monitor my blood pressure. I know high blood pressure is somehow linked to sleep apnea.

You are playing in a post that's been over for 9 years, I think the title purty much says it all. Jim

Goofproof wrote: You are playing in a post that's been over for 9 years, I think the title purty much says it all. Jim

He's been here before spamming with his link to his blood pressure calculator thingy/website. I am just waiting for it to appear here or in other threads.
If I had seen this before someone posted... no one would be seeing it and the zombie thread would fade back into the archives.

Pugsy wrote:

Goofproof wrote: You are playing in a post that's been over for 9 years, I think the title purty much says it all. Jim

He's been here before spamming with his link to his blood pressure calculator thingy/website. I am just waiting for it to appear here or in other threads.
If I had seen this before someone posted... no one would be seeing it and the zombie thread would fade back into the archives.

I don't know. There seems to be a lot of evidence that the brain injury occurs based on posts on forums. A review of the last few months is demonstrative.

Sleep_Apnea_Sufferer wrote:This is heart breaking. I have had a lot of bad stuff happen in my life but I love life and there are a few things that still keep me going. Music I have found is the best therapy for someone who suffers from sleep apnea. Sleep apnea I have found makes it incredibly difficult to study and learn and it gets harder and harder as you get older. I am only in my late 20s but I am still around.

UNTREATED Sleep Apnea........In your late 20's you have the opportunity to treat the problem and go on to have a normal life. Without treatment you may not have to worry about getting old.