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Re: puresleep

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:00 am
by SnoreBore
SnoreBore wrote:I figure that I should give PureSleep a try.

Does anyone know from where the PureSleep device is shipped? I want to know if I live close enough from where it is shipped to not have to pay for express shipping.
So, I received my PureSleep device Friday. I molded it and used it that night. My wife says that she didn't hear a peep out of me all night. However, my teeth were killing me through the night and the next morning for a couple of hours after I woke up. I slept for about 10 hours, and the soreness was expected. The next night (Saturday night), I wore it again. As with Friday night, my wife was very pleased with the results--and so am I. The soreness was much less that night and the soreness in the morning was definitely less than the morning before and it didn't last long. I guess my mouth and teeth are getting used to it.

The bad news is that my wife and oldest daughter are away for the week and I am not going to use the PS device again until she returns--which means I'll probably have to go through a similar "break-in" period again with the soreness.

By the way, the device shipped from Connecticut and took a week to get here (southern California) once they shipped it. It took them about three days before they even shipped it, for a total of 10 days from online order to delivery.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:24 am
by twokatmew
SnoreBore wrote:
SnoreBore wrote: The bad news is that my wife and oldest daughter are away for the week and I am not going to use the PS device again until she returns--which means I'll probably have to go through a similar "break-in" period again with the soreness.
Why won't you use Pur-Sleep while your wife is away, especially if it's helping with pain....

Re: puresleep

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:52 pm
by SnoreBore
twokatmew wrote:
SnoreBore wrote: The bad news is that my wife and oldest daughter are away for the week and I am not going to use the PS device again until she returns--which means I'll probably have to go through a similar "break-in" period again with the soreness.
Why won't you use Pur-Sleep while your wife is away, especially if it's helping with pain....
Well, I probably have another two or three nights to get over the soreness (for a total of five nights). I'm only two days into it, so I thought I'll start over when she returns. If I were at least four nights into it, then I'd just continue with it.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:41 pm
by twokatmew
Oh duh.... I thought you were talking about Pur-Sleep aromatics, not the Pure Sleep dental appliance....

Re: puresleep

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:17 pm
by SnoreBore
twokatmew wrote:Oh duh.... I thought you were talking about Pur-Sleep aromatics, not the Pure Sleep dental appliance....
No problem.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:10 pm
by X-Ray Man
I have snored since the age of twelve. I'm 52 now and have used a TAP (Thornton Adjustable Positioner) with astounding success, the first morning I hit the snooze button and COULD NOT go back to sleep, this had never happened before, EVER. I had four cervical fusion surgeries since and lost my TAP during a move. I was re-tested and found to have severe apnea requiring a Bi-pap machine, after using the Puritan Bennett model, ( it was replaced more than 20 times over a years time) I finally got a Respironics Bipap plus that works flawlessly but I still miss the TAP, I haven't slept more than 3 hours at a time with either machine. I no longer am insured or employed due to chronic neck pain and that pain has alot to do with my short sleep times. Obviously I can't afford to have another TAP constructed so I'm gonna give pure-sleep a try, if it works half as good as the TAP I'll be HAPPY.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:44 pm
by roster
X-Ray Man wrote: ...... after using the Puritan Bennett model, ( it was replaced more than 20 times over a years time).........
A new CPAP machine every couple of weeks. Interesting.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:47 pm
by Smitty39555
website guarantee says 50% refund within 30 days....

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:03 pm
by Guest
SnoreBore wrote:
twokatmew wrote:
SnoreBore wrote: The bad news is that my wife and oldest daughter are away for the week and I am not going to use the PS device again until she returns--which means I'll probably have to go through a similar "break-in" period again with the soreness.
Why won't you use Pur-Sleep <sic> while your wife is away, especially if it's helping with pain....
Well, I probably have another two or three nights to get over the soreness (for a total of five nights). I'm only two days into it, so I thought I'll start over when she returns. If I were at least four nights into it, then I'd just continue with it.
So, I've been using PureSleep all week and according to my wife, haven't snored one bit. Woo-whooo! The soreness is just about gone, but I do have a question.

Since this device keeps your lower jaw extended out beyond the upper jaw, there is some pressure on the lower teeth. I'm afraid that this pressure may permanently reposition my teeth over time. Is there any long-term effect of PureSleep? Is it like a child's nightly retainer in that some teeth will eventually get repositioned?

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:06 pm
by Guest
Oops...sorry. The message above was actually written by me, "SnoreBore". I forgot to enter that name and so, "Guest" was assigned to that message.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:46 pm
by SawingLogs
Guest wrote:So, I've been using PureSleep all week and according to my wife, haven't snored one bit. Woo-whooo! The soreness is just about gone, but I do have a question.

Since this device keeps your lower jaw extended out beyond the upper jaw, there is some pressure on the lower teeth. I'm afraid that this pressure may permanently reposition my teeth over time. Is there any long-term effect of PureSleep? Is it like a child's nightly retainer in that some teeth will eventually get repositioned?
I, too, want to know if that mouthpiece will permanently alter my bottom teeth after a long time. I've been using this for about two months now and my bottom front teeth get slightly sore every now and again where the mouthpiece pushes the bottom jaw outward.

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:59 pm
by roster
SawingLogs wrote: ....I, too, want to know if that mouthpiece will permanently alter my bottom teeth after a long time. I've been using this for about two months now and my bottom front teeth get slightly sore every now and again where the mouthpiece pushes the bottom jaw outward.
The potential for teeth movement and TMJ problems is certainly there. When patients have an oral appliance made by a dentist, they are cautioned to have regular follow visits where the dentist checks on teeth movement and asks about TMJ problems. Sometimes, due to teeth movement, the appliance is adjusted or use is discontinued.

Prefabricated oral devices not useful for sleep apnea

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:14 am
by roster
Prefabricated oral devices not useful for sleep apnea

Prefabricated oral devices not useful for sleep apnea


NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Prefabricated thermoplastic oral appliances for mandibular advancement are not effective for treating mild sleep apnea, and clinicians should use custom-made devices instead, new research suggests.

The appliances made of thermoplastic material, so-called "boil-and-bite" devices, are meant to provide an individualized fit and to be an alternative to devices made by technicians from dental casts.

"To date, there have been no studies comparing the efficacy of such prefabricated devices with custom-made devices," lead author Dr. Olivier M. Vanderveken, from the University of Antwerp in Belgium, and colleagues point out.

The present findings suggest that not only are the thermoplastic devices poor treatments for sleep apnea, they are not useful in screening patients for response to mandibular advancement therapy, the authors note in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine for July 15.

The current cross-over trial involved 4 months of treatment with each

type of device separated by a 1-month period in 35 patients with mild sleep apnea.

The custom-made devices, created using a plaster cast of the patient's mouth and construction bites, significantly reduced the apnea-hypopnea index, whereas the prefabricated devices did not.

Roughly one third of patients treated with prefabricated devices had compliance failure, usually due to insufficient retention at night. The total failure rate with such devices was 69%. Sixty-three percent of patients who failed with prefabricated devices, succeeded with custom-made devices.

Eighty-two percent of patients reported a preference for custom-made devices and 9% of subjects indicated no preference (p < 0.0001).

"Our results suggest that the thermoplastic device cannot be recommended as a therapeutic option nor can it be used as a screening tool to find good candidates for mandibular advancement therapy," the authors conclude.

Am J Respir Crit Care Med 2008;178:197-202.

http://www.chiroeco.com/chiropractic/ne ... eep-apnea/

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:01 pm
by SawingLogs
PureSleep works great for me. I do not use it for sleep apnea--I use it to stop my snoring. It works really well at stopping snoring.

I recommend it for anyone without sleep apnea who needs to curb their snoring.

--SL

Re: puresleep

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:14 pm
by roster
SawingLogs wrote: .......I recommend it for anyone without sleep apnea who needs to curb their snoring.

--SL
Is that all you recommend for snorers?