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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:05 pm
by Goofproof
j.a.taylor wrote:
Goofproof wrote:I can't wait for my new Remstar with the usb port on the front, or maybe Bluetooth. Jim
Add bluetooth, usb port, and internet access, and Respironics might convince me to give up my ResMed
You mean you just didn't buy it because it came with it's own fire hose! Jim

Medtronics, sent me a modem to send them data from my defibulator, I'd say it might be a neat idea, but the leads they used on the defibulator are know to be defective and substandard. Maybe it's to call them with when the implant kills me.


Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:11 pm
by roster
Goofproof wrote:........ Maybe it's to call them with when the implant kills me.
Makes it easier for them to file a timely claim against your estate for any bills you owe.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:27 pm
by Goofproof
I wish I had a program like E. P. to read the download I am sending them, as I am shure it never has been able to work. I would like to have proof of my own for lawyers, when the need arizes. So far in a little over 1 year, 5 people have been killed, 470 hospitalized, and 5,000 units are out there.

When the put it in, they told me it was going to hurt when they tested it, I never felt a thing. The tech with the laptop, and Doctor both had a Deer in The Headlights Look, and then told me Everythings Fine. That was before the lead problem was known.

I'd have been better off if my ins wasn't so good. Jim

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:33 pm
by roster
Goofproof wrote:I wish I had a program like E. P. to read the download I am sending them, as I am shure it never has been able to work. I would like to have proof of my own for lawyers, when the need arizes. So far in a little over 1 year, 5 people have been killed, 470 hospitalized, and 5,000 units are out there.

When the put it in, they told me it was going to hurt when they tested it, I never felt a thing. The tech with the laptop, and Doctor both had a Deer in The Headlights Look, and then told me Everythings Fine. That was before the lead problem was known.

I'd have been better off if my ins wasn't so good. Jim
Here is some info on Goofproof's dilemma if anyone is interested:

http://www.angelreyesblog.com/2007/10/a ... -recalled/

http://www.schmidtandclark.com/Medtronic/

Good luck to you Goofproof - I hope you and I are on this forum for a lot more years.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:12 pm
by Guest
couple more of wars its going to pay thru life time debts....keep selling....the weak greenbacks will be like the banana republic.....feed just nice for the monkeys.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:09 am
by wabmorgan
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote:
JeffH wrote:This is going to be a growing tread in this country in that the dollar isn't worth anything, so many countries have an over supply of worth / less dollars and they need to do something with them.

The changes that have happened in this country in my short 51 years on this planet are amazing. When I was a kid we had tariffs and we had companies that made things, and therefore, we had JOBS!

Not any more...


JeffH
The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:34 am
by Guest
The first time I looked at Respironics stock was $23, that was a few years ago.



At that point there wasn't another sleep company as far as I was concerned.

Why Why Why?


Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:27 am
by JeffH
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote:
JeffH wrote:This is going to be a growing tread in this country in that the dollar isn't worth anything, so many countries have an over supply of worth / less dollars and they need to do something with them.

The changes that have happened in this country in my short 51 years on this planet are amazing. When I was a kid we had tariffs and we had companies that made things, and therefore, we had JOBS!

Not any more...


JeffH
The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.
You have to realize also that this country spends as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on so called "defense". 'Ole Ike was right...

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:40 am
by Snoredog
JeffH wrote:
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote:
JeffH wrote:This is going to be a growing tread in this country in that the dollar isn't worth anything, so many countries have an over supply of worth / less dollars and they need to do something with them.

The changes that have happened in this country in my short 51 years on this planet are amazing. When I was a kid we had tariffs and we had companies that made things, and therefore, we had JOBS!

Not any more...


JeffH
The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.
You have to realize also that this country spends as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on so called "defense". 'Ole Ike was right...
like we had a CHOICE when we selected a President, if the Democrats could supply a candidate with at least a half a brain to compete with the Republicans maybe we would have had a choice when it came time to vote.

who was it that pushed NAFTA through? Oh that's right it was Clinton. It is either vote for this dumbass or that one, when we vote we select the lesser of the two evils because both are not usually worth a damn.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:01 pm
by Gerald
As usual, Snoredog has boiled it out to its essence.

A broken arm....or a broken leg.....take your pick. What sucks is that we're never given the opportunity to choose "None of the Above"..........

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:08 pm
by JeffH
Snoredog wrote:
JeffH wrote:
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote: The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.
You have to realize also that this country spends as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on so called "defense". 'Ole Ike was right...
like we had a CHOICE when we selected a President, if the Democrats could supply a candidate with at least a half a brain to compete with the Republicans maybe we would have had a choice when it came time to vote.

who was it that pushed NAFTA through? Oh that's right it was Clinton. It is either vote for this dumbass or that one, when we vote we select the lesser of the two evils because both are not usually worth a damn.

Can't argue with that, Snoredog. Both parties seem to pick the worst candidate possible and then act like they are proud of them.

Revolution...

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:23 pm
by Slinky
I just get so discouraged always having to vote AGAINST somebody rather than FOR somebody. I've only had two Presidential candidates that I voted FOR: John Kennedy and Gerald Ford. All other elections I just voted against who I "thought" was the worst candidate. *sigh*

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:33 pm
by wabmorgan
JeffH wrote:
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote:
JeffH wrote:This is going to be a growing tread in this country in that the dollar isn't worth anything, so many countries have an over supply of worth / less dollars and they need to do something with them.

The changes that have happened in this country in my short 51 years on this planet are amazing. When I was a kid we had tariffs and we had companies that made things, and therefore, we had JOBS!

Not any more...


JeffH
The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.
You have to realize also that this country spends as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on so called "defense". 'Ole Ike was right...
That may be..... but the entitlements ARE the REAL budget problem. They will eventually take over the entire federal budget. There are really only a few choices here.... either raise taxes or cut the budget, which is going to have to include cuts to entitlements.

This reminds me of that question from the republican debate where someone called in wanting to know the candidates position on a manned mission to Mars. Come on.... WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND ANYONE TO MARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(well... maybe we can(need) to afford to send one person )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbu0n_IA ... icandebate

That is just an example.... but there is a LOT of WASTE in the budget as well. As a country we are going to have to learn to make choices and we can't be everything to everybody.

Point is budgets cuts are going to have be made across the entire fedderal budget and even then we will be lucky if taxes don't increase anyway.

I can tell you that unless some type of budget cuts are put in to place.... YOUR TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP..... there simply won't be a choice at some point.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:46 pm
by JeffH
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
wabmorgan wrote:
JeffH wrote:
Wulfman wrote: The other part of this equation is that lots of those countries bought our bonds and bills and are shoring up our 9 trillion dollar debt. (Think "lead" poisoning) Part of "the plan" is to make our money worth-less so we can pay back the debt with cheaper money. However, the way the debt is piling up, I'm wondering if they gave up on that plan, too.
It's all "funny money", anyway.

Den

Read something a couple of days ago I'm still trying to get my head around....

This was the GAO report on the debt of this country. 9/30/00 this country had 20 trillion dollars in obligations. 9/30/07 it was 52 trillion dollars.

It took 225 years to get to 20 trillion and Bush raised it by 32 trillion dollars in only 7 YEARS!

Every man, woman, and child in this country is in debt $175,000.

And this is the GAO report from this administration.....pitiful!

I'll say it again....if you voted for Bush and your grandkids find out you are going to be hated some day.

A LOT(MOST) of that 52 trillion is in entitlement programs. Most of that isn't current debt but rather projected debt with those entitlements calculated it.
You have to realize also that this country spends as much as the rest of the world COMBINED on so called "defense". 'Ole Ike was right...
That may be..... but the entitlements ARE the REAL budget problem. They will eventually take over the entire federal budget. There are really only a few choices here.... either raise taxes or cut the budget, which is going to have to include cuts to entitlements.

This reminds me of that question from the republican debate where someone called in wanting to know the candidates position on a manned mission to Mars. Come on.... WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND ANYONE TO MARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(well... maybe we can(need) to afford to send one person )

That is just an example.... but there is a LOT of WASTE in the budget as well. As a country we are going to have to learn to make choices and we can't be everything to everybody.

Point is budgets cuts are going to have be made across the entire fedderal budget and even then we will be lucky if taxes don't increase anyway.

I can tell you that unless some type of budget cuts are put in to place.... YOUR TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP..... there simply won't be a choice at some point.

It's WAY past time for taxes to go up. The rich have had their seven, going on eight year vacation at the rest of the countries expense. When people that make billions a year (hedge fund mgrs) and pay taxes at a 15% rate something is BAD WRONG in this country.

I don't usually agree with anything Pat Buchanan says, but last week he was on CSPAN talking up his new book and he made some really valid points.

1. For 150 years we had tariffs in this country and we were doing fine. He said "free trade" is killing us.

2. He said it used to be that it was country first and economy second. Now it economy first last and always...to hell with the country. The so called "globalization" of business is proof of that. Big companies have no loyalty to any country any more. It's all about making a buck for the shareholders every quarter....period.

This is my point. Taxes are what pay for services in society. I'm grateful that when I flush the toilet, the turds go away. Thank you government. People want services, but don't want to pay for them. Whole system is out of whack. I'm probably strange, but I've never minded paying my taxes. I realize that they pay for things I use and need. America seems to have turned into a country of self-centered babies that want services but aren't willing to pay for them.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:05 pm
by Wulfman
JeffH wrote:I'm grateful that when I flush the toilet, the turds go away.
We need to "flush" D.C. and see if the turds will go away.....
Unfortunately, we've probably got too many "floaters" that would remain behind.

Den