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I think we need to be reminded of the statement "we can agree to disagree". and in doing this we need to remind ourselves to be "civil"

This is a forum and chat to share knowledge and ideas. Part of it is also to share frustrations as we go through this journey into getting our sleep apnea treated. We bring in our own experiences, our own unique medical history, our own frustrations, and share part of those with others on the board. We of course can't bring in all of what we are as there isn't enough space on all the internet to post it so we pick and choose tidbits we think best reflects where we are at in this journey.

Too often there are the lets flame the DME posts and some of those posts are valid. I am not happy with my local DME by any means but I dumped them. We also see the "bad doc" posts and again some of those are valid, but we as layman can not know as much about a particular posters medical history as their doc does.

I think there are too many people on the board who have a strict agenda of their own allegiance whether it be to saying an APAP is for everyone or saying you should change your own pressure and raise the upper number to infinity. Hopefully everyone here knows both of those are bad ideas. There is one forum member at least who warns people repeatedly about centrals, and as much as I don't always appreciate the wordage in his posts, I do respect the ideas behind them. We are all different and what works for one might not work (or even be medically sound) for another.

However, this battle carries on into the chat room where if you even mention using an APAP, you will get one of the techs to start throwing crap at you.

I don't have the knowledge base some of you have. I do know quite a bit, but I think we all need to be treated with respect whoever we are. We can joke around sure but when there are attacks then those need to stop. My health this past month or so doesn't allow the frustrations to deal with some of the games I see here mainly in the chat. I am at the point personally where I am about ready to walk away from here again myself. As much as I can help some, I don't need to be attacked in the process. No one needs that.

I am sorry if I hijacked this thread. I hate to see another reasonable tech leave unless they were one attacking others, which I don't think was the case. It seems many techs and docs who have wandered onto this site have left probably because of a small minority of forum members.

Dreamstalker:
You missed the point... I KNOW Akcpapguy was not an anonymous poster.

My point is that anyone who is concerned about their job, their safety, whatever SHOULD be able to be anonymous so that they can contribute in safety.

I too would hate to see Akcpapguy leave. But he can always change his ID and return to the forum.

As long as he isn't using work computers, his boss shouldn't have a problem.

And, just maybe his boss is feeling a little threatened by a very knowledgeable tech.

Hope you hang with us Darin.

WillSucceed wrote:Dreamstalker:
You missed the point... I KNOW Akcpapguy was not an anonymous poster.

My point is that anyone who is concerned about their job, their safety, whatever SHOULD be able to be anonymous so that they can contribute in safety.

Ahh ... well your point is indeed more clear now ... but the logic is not.

As Daffney already pointed out ... posting as guest provides no more anonymity than a registered member with regard to effects on employment. But that is OK, no need for us to hijack this thread to debate something that has alraedy been debated many times on this forum ... we shall agree to disagree.

Take care,

Sure, we can agree to disagree... I think my logic is just fine, thanks.

its his choice, but i think throwing out the "job at risk" is a pretty silly line of reason.
I must say I have dropped out of here and cut way back at times just because I got tired of getting hammered for having some new viewpoints. But I usually wander back and see if there is something I can add or gain from time to time.

I don't post my pic or exact details about myself for a couple of reasons, but I still think totally anonymous posting is a bad idea. At least I am a consistent persona here that people can prejudge or not.
I could say my job was on the line too, but that would be equally stretching it.
I work for a medical device company for one thing which is always an issue, even though its NOT CPAP related. And since I sent I have referred a number of people from work including my bosses and HR people here, I would prefer they not know too much of my personal life.....or the time stamp on my messages.

But going away is silly. Get a different avatar and quit blabbing so much about your personal details.

I have enjoyed your posts, Darin. I'm sorry to see you go. I hope you will reconsider, even if you change your screen name and avatar.

If I remember correctly, in his very first or one of his very first posts akcpapguy told us that he was visiting this forum WITH the knowledge and BLESSING of his manager/boss. This left me w/the impression that his manager, at that time, was interested in what "they" could learn from the patients in this forum. Meaning, "we" didn't leave that manager any too impressed w/us; more like disgusted w/us due to the comments and/or presentation of information/opinions of a very few who were less than tactful, subtle or even polite.

Clever sleuthing Sherlock (Slinky)... and Dreamstalker thinks my logic is bad. He ought to have a hayday with your assumptions.

No, Will. I am quite sure that akcpapguy's manager was interested in whether there were things they could learn from us in the forum that would enable them to provide better service to their xPAP customers. I would hope that akcpapguy will stop back in and clarify this but I suspect he, himself, has no real desire to return here.

I think most of the DME, RT, people who venture into this forum fairly consistently would agree that it takes a thick skin to be on "that side" of the xPAP community and still maintain any interest in visiting this or any other apnea forum I have frequented given the overwheming negativity towards local DME suppliers.

[quote="snork1"]its his choice, but i think throwing out the "job at risk" is a pretty silly line of reason.
I must say I have dropped out of here and cut way back at times just because I got tired of getting hammered for having some new viewpoints. But I usually wander back and see if there is something I can add or gain from time to time.

I don't post my pic or exact details about myself for a couple of reasons, but I still think totally anonymous posting is a bad idea. At least I am a consistent persona here that people can prejudge or not.
I could say my job was on the line too, but that would be equally stretching it.
I work for a medical device company for one thing which is always an issue, even though its NOT CPAP related. And since I sent I have referred a number of people from work including my bosses and HR people here, I would prefer they not know too much of my personal life.....or the time stamp on my messages.

But going away is silly. Get a different avatar and quit blabbing so much about your personal details.

Anonymous as Slinky wrote:If I remember correctly, in his very first or one of his very first posts akcpapguy told us that he was visiting this forum WITH the knowledge and BLESSING of his manager/boss. This left me w/the impression that his manager, at that time, was interested in what "they" could learn from the patients in this forum. Meaning, "we" didn't leave that manager any too impressed w/us; more like disgusted w/us due to the comments and/or presentation of information/opinions of a very few who were less than tactful, subtle or even polite.

Are you thinking of his Poll?

viewtopic/t20494/Abusing-the-system.html

akcpapguy wrote:I have asked this question because I have about 20 or so patients who bring their Respironics mask back without fail at around the 25-30 day mark. All of these patients have been doing this for over 24 months (Long before I started at this job), and some of them have been doing it for as long as 4 years.

This week my Manager asked me for a recommendation for a timeframe on an acceptable use policy. I told her I would give her an answer on Tuesday after i talked to some other DME RT's and ofcourse polled you folks here at cpaptalk. Smile

These folks don't really switch mask either, they just simply change the size they ask for from month to month. None of them have ever had to pay for a mask, since they are returned before the billing cycle is reach.

I'm not clear from that what his manager actually was aware of.

Den

lmmo wrote:I enjoyed reading your posts...it is a shame that a dme that wears cpap can not feel comfortable here. I am leary of posting as well. I am a RPSGT, CRT, and cpapper as well. People that post like the above post are intimidating and scare posters with questions away that may otherwise benefit. However I do reccommend this site to my patients. I also read the posts to find tricks of the trade to pass on. I am sorry you need to leave the site. L

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LMMO also said:

I'm sorry that my patients have to be exposed to your rudeness. Aren't we all (cpappers) seeking the same thing? We should ALL be afforded support without intimidation, bashing and negative banter.

how did LMMO go from the posting the first quote to posting the second? unless it's referring to someone else? and what happened here, anyway? i haven't read anything to indicate that anyone was offended...was there a deleted post or something?
just wondering
sharon1965

Slinky wrote:Please come back w/a new ID, akcpapguy! It helps that you advise us you are a PAPper and an RT or whatever but beyond that we don't give a hoot or need to know and thus avoid any chance you could be recognized by your employer.

As much as I regret those who chose to jump on you I regret your employer becoming aware of the "unfriendly" side of some of us in the forum. I would much rather he support referral to this forum for all his company's xPAP patients. Thanks for sharing w/us as much as you did. God bless!

DITTO!!!

sharon1965 wrote: .was there a deleted post or something?
just wondering
sharon1965

yes at least one