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Muffy wrote: . . . a discussion about the interpretation of Pdi when the Pes waveform hangs over both sides of the 0 cmH2O threshold might be a little "over the top" for a discussion forum . . .

Personally speaking, my opinion, for whatever that is or isn't worth, is that I appreciate that you two dignify this forum by having these types of discussions here publicly.

jeff

I'm happy to continue, but this thread has gone off topic as most of my discussion with Muffy should be in this thread viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25185&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

split_city wrote:So why do Pankow et al, Steier et al, Lotti et al and O'Donoghue et al all define (dynamic) iPEEP as the pressure difference between end-expiratory Pes/start inspiratory effort and the onset of flow? Is that different to static iPEEP? I'm reading up on the two...

What? They stole the whole idea from Critical Care, where for 25 years this phenomenon (better known as AutoPEEP for the longest time) was observed in mechanically ventilated patients as being a bad thing.

That is, until they invented Inverse I:E Ratio Ventilation and said it was a good thing.

split_city wrote:Oh and HAPPY NEW YEAR! You're logged in pretty early though......or haven't you gone to bed yet?

Happy New Year back!

Actually, you've heard of "larks"?

I'm the one who wakes the larks up.

Muffy