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Have mentioned this before, and sure I'm not the only one with this issue and I have tried all different masks. Getting more sleep for someone who just cannot get to sleep without pills(have reduced) and a great improvement with my "events" plus leakage. Leakage under 10 and events per hour 1.5. That's my lowest ever. Chin strap I'm sure keeps the mouth in a more stable condition(tried the neck brace but a side and stomach sleeper and that just did not work) plus a mouthpiece upper guard has also helped but sometimes too much pressure for me with the nose pillows, so dentist now making me a lower one instead. But my eyes feel so sore, and I know that somehow leakage is getting to my eyes internally(through my nose) (there is a name for this which a poster brought up previously but can't find it.)

Just before I go to bed I use a heated bean pad over the eyes, plenty of drops(Systane) and always wake up around 3-4am to pee and then use an electric eye pad that sometimes I fall asleep with. Recently brought a Dreo humidifier that spews out mist and think this has helped plus have another different make by the bedside but not as good.

My question is, I'm making better progress in the sleep dept, but have noticed the sight deterioration due to constant dry eyes. I need my sleep, but I also need good sight... Any advice? Eye Doc wants to do what called Punctal plugs, but I will not mess with the eyes anymore.

Appreciate it as always...

bran wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:19 pm

But my eyes feel so sore, and I know that somehow leakage is getting to my eyes internally(through my nose) (there is a name for this which a poster brought up previously but can't find it.)

The air is getting into your eyes through your tear ducts. (This has been one of several of my off-and-on nemeses in my own 15 year CPAP journey.)

If you press a finger on the inside corner of your eyes when you notice the air getting into your eyes, that will probably (temporarily) block the air from getting into the eyes. That will help confirm that the air is indeed getting into your eyes from the "inside" rather than just blowing on them from the outside.

Just before I go to bed I use a heated bean pad over the eyes, plenty of drops(Systane) and always wake up around 3-4am to pee and then use an electric eye pad that sometimes I fall asleep with. Recently brought a Dreo humidifier that spews out mist and think this has helped plus have another different make by the bedside but not as good.

I once upon a time had an expensive eye mask purchased from my eye doctor's office that was designed to help trap humidity around my eyes. (It looked kind of like an opaque pair of swim goggles. It also put just enough pressure on the inside corner of my eyes to relieve the sense of air being blown into my eyes from inside. The head strap of the mask was a bit large for my head, however, and that strap eventually broke.

I have found ordinary sleep masks somewhat useful---if they are placed just right. I also tend to find that I can use either the corner of my bed pillow or a corner of the bedspread to help block that air---if I get it placed just right so there's just a tiny bit of pressure on the inside corner of my eye.

In your case: You need to be sure that the heated pads are not aggravating the drying.

My question is, I'm making better progress in the sleep dept, but have noticed the sight deterioration due to constant dry eyes. I need my sleep, but I also need good sight... Any advice? Eye Doc wants to do what called Punctal plugs, but I will not mess with the eyes anymore.

Punctal plugs (which were never recommended to me by my eye doc) are designed to block the tear ducts. Even though my own eye doctor did not recommend them to me for *my* eyes, I would not dismiss the idea of getting them out of hand. If I were you, I would have a long conversation with the eye doctor about both the pros and the cons of getting the punctal plugs. You've tried other means to prevent damage to your eyes, and if the pros of getting the punctal plugs outweigh the negatives, it would be worth it.

Thanks very much Robysue. Appreciate it. Will explore all avenues.

You might be consuming too much fiber in your diet.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:15 pm

You might be consuming too much fiber in your diet.

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