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ozij wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:16 am

I agree that those charts show very bad sleep

And yet, his sleep study at titration showed ZERO AROUSALS!!

Sorry I reply to your message by mistake.

Nocibur wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:59 pm

ozij wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:16 am

I agree that those charts show very bad sleep

And yet, his sleep study at titration showed ZERO AROUSALS!!



arousals.jpg

yeah, I really question all these sleep studies, I think all these doctors want you to get a CPAP machine and treat everybody the same way. I probably didn't sleep at all during the sleep study.

@Nocibur

Nocibur wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:59 pm

ozij wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:16 am

I agree that those charts show very bad sleep

And yet, his sleep study at titration showed ZERO AROUSALS!!

arousals.jpg

What does "Total # WK or MVT" stand for? Wake or Movement? If so, why are "WK or MVT" counted together? Doesn't that imply that movement causes waking that is even more than "just" an arousal?

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:38 pm

If so, why are "WK or MVT" counted together?

I believe that software adds those episodes where an epoch has so much artifact that it cannot be staged so it's labelled "Movement".

They list μ arousals but there's no such thing.

They list arousals > 15 seconds but that's actually Wake.

IMO those people have NFI what they're talking about.

I don't have the latest version of Scoring Rules (cause it costs $$$) to confirm if "Movement" should even be reported. I may put it on the list for Father's Day Gifts, but as you know I'm really out of the business and only stopped by to say hi. We could go to battle with these guys to prove they're idiots but it'd probably be futile.

They use an AI-driven program called EnsoSleep.

Looks it CAN score arousals, IDK why it didn't.

Mayhaps I shall call up Ensosleep later and inquire about that, as well as get clarification on micro-/macro- arousal scoring.

BTW she's wrong.