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Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:18 pm
by Dog Slobber
lynninnj wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:22 pm

I recall that conversation. I was thinking more specifically that there was something about the differences between having your device computer CPAP, whatever plugged into one of the power outlets versus the AC outlet. I could be completely mistaken. It’s been a while.
Yes, part of the conversation was also about advantages/disadvantages of plugging into AC or DC.

I have both options available to me:

But I prefer to use the AC outlet, when using it as a UPS/EPS. This way I'm plugged into the the grid, and not using the battery at all.

However should there be an anticipated power outage, I would use my DC-DC converter as it is more efficient.

For our Delta 2 units:

AC:
  • Unit acts as a UPS/EPS doesn't draw from battery therefore extending life of batteries
  • When on battery not as efficient as on DC
DC:
  • More efficient battery usage, than AC, the unit's charge will last longer
  • Does line conditioning, protects against Spikes, voltage overage/under, brownouts
  • Draws from battery, therefore there is a continuous draw/recharge which reduces lifetime of battery

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:17 am
by lynninnj
Dog Slobber wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:18 pm
lynninnj wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:22 pm

I recall that conversation. I was thinking more specifically that there was something about the differences between having your device computer CPAP, whatever plugged into one of the power outlets versus the AC outlet. I could be completely mistaken. It’s been a while.
Yes, part of the conversation was also about advantages/disadvantages of plugging into AC or DC.

I have both options available to me:

But I prefer to use the AC outlet, when using it as a UPS/EPS. This way I'm plugged into the the grid, and not using the battery at all.

However should there be an anticipated power outage, I would use my DC-DC converter as it is more efficient.

For our Delta 2 units:

AC:
  • Unit acts as a UPS/EPS doesn't draw from battery therefore extending life of batteries
  • When on battery not as efficient as on DC
DC:
  • More efficient battery usage, than AC, the unit's charge will last longer
  • Does line conditioning, protects against Spikes, voltage overage/under, brownouts
  • Draws from battery, therefore there is a continuous draw/recharge which reduces lifetime of battery
In the last two bullets I am left with questions. Do you use a surge protector for your delta 2? Are you also saying the dc/dc acts a bit like a surge protector or does it just balance current out a bit?

Did you experiment for a night yet to see the energy efficiency differences of ac vs dc? obviously if using as a backup during outage this would be a priority.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:48 am
by Dog Slobber
lynninnj wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:17 am


In the last two bullets I am left with questions. Do you use a surge protector for your delta 2? Are you also saying the dc/dc acts a bit like a surge protector or does it just balance current out a bit?

Did you experiment for a night yet to see the energy efficiency differences of ac vs dc? obviously if using as a backup during outage this would be a priority.
I don't use a surge protector.

Whenever one is using a power station, and drawing from the batteries, then line-conditioning (surge protection) naturally happens.

Haven't experimented with AC vs DC efficiency yet.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:47 am
by dh37
Dog Slobber wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:09 am
ResMed still does not have a Air11 branded DC-DC converter, but the AirMini DC-DC Converter numbers are 24v at 65w, which is the same output as the Air11 power brick. The port is compatible and it would be a huge mistake for ResMed to produce a form-factor compatible port that isn't pin compatible.
Supposedly it does now: I just bought this: https://www.respshop.com/cpap-supplies/ ... -1902.html
It's branded as ResMed. Maybe it's actually the Mini converter, or maybe it's a fake, but it's branded as ResMed.

Another link: https://www.apriadirect.com/resmed-air11-dc-converter

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:10 pm
by lynninnj
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:48 am
lynninnj wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:17 am


In the last two bullets I am left with questions. Do you use a surge protector for your delta 2? Are you also saying the dc/dc acts a bit like a surge protector or does it just balance current out a bit?

Did you experiment for a night yet to see the energy efficiency differences of ac vs dc? obviously if using as a backup during outage this would be a priority.
I don't use a surge protector.

Whenever one is using a power station, and drawing from the batteries, then line-conditioning (surge protection) naturally happens.

Haven't experimented with AC vs DC efficiency yet.
Please let me know. Would be helpful to determine if it’s worth the extra money for adapter by giving a noticeable boost in battery efficiency.

Someone below posted the link to it and it remains on my radar.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:57 pm
by Buddy0329
This is a great thread!

I am definitely in need of one of these backup batteries. Was looking at both the Ecoflow River 2 499Wh for $300 and the larger Delta 2 1024WH for $500. These larger & more capable batteries have come down to much more affordable levels from even just a year or two ago.

I'm glad to see Resmed finally released the DC converted for the Airsense 11. It's not yet listed on Resmed's corporate website but I've found Resmed Part #39231 on the online sites for multiple cpap resellers, but not yet here at cpap.com.

I'm running out of excuses keeping me from investing in a battery backup solution now. In the one power outage we had this summer the, I camped out on a recliner not wanting to go lie down to sleep without the cpap. Thankfully the power came back by 1am.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:44 am
by JaxTom
I've really been getting into solar backups recently. I have an Ecoflow 2. And I love it But I think it's overkill for CPAP. I use an Ecoflow River 2 (1 quarter the size), and it works great.
Always make sure the Ecoflow product you buy has a 2 or 3 in it's name or you are likely not getting an LFP battery.

You want LFP for a variety of reasons, but mostly because it lasts 10 times longer !!

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:16 am
by lynninnj
JaxTom wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:44 am
I've really been getting into solar backups recently. I have an Ecoflow 2. And I love it But I think it's overkill for CPAP. I use an Ecoflow River 2 (1 quarter the size), and it works great.
Always make sure the Ecoflow product you buy has a 2 or 3 in it's name or you are likely not getting an LFP battery.

You want LFP for a variety of reasons, but mostly because it lasts 10 times longer !!
I totally agree with you about the lithium, iron phosphate batteries! I wouldn’t buy the lead or lithium ion batteries.

I got the adapter at cpapsupplies.com. I think I signed up for some sort of newsletter and got a 15% discount. I also use retailmenot.com and I believe I’m getting another 3% back from them and 3% back from my credit card for online orders. With the 15%? discount I think it was I got the adapter for around $64? much better than $100. (might have used other discount codes or first time order special code?)

I experimented for a few nights using the heat and humidity settings that I normally use. This dropped the delta two down approximately 31% per night. Without turning the settings down, I should get three full nights of CPAP use if the power went out. The smaller batteries would give you one possibly two nights. If you didn’t have any of these extras turned on you would get many more nights out of it.

A poster here did a deeper dive on this that suggested almost 10 nights at 8hr nights with no heat and humidity turned on. (He can soeak up if he has more to add and deserves credit but I leave it to him. )

I bought my delta two on sale, but the price is gone up since then. They will probably go on sale again on the next prime day. I can’t remember if they have one in October or if it’s just a cyber Monday after Thanksgiving but there you go.

I also have a nice solar panel for mine. I don’t feel like it’s overkill because it is powerful enough that if I needed to share my kwh with my fridge to let it cool down until compressor turns off, I can.

jmho

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:47 am
by FrostyOfTheNorth
Good morning,

Are any of you using a Resmed Air11 DC/DC Converter with an Ecoflow Delta 1300 (the original)?

I've tried two brands of third-party DC converters but they power off and back on every 1-2 minutes so they aren't usable. I wonder if the Resmed converter would work for running my Airsense 11 for off-grid camping.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:16 pm
by RogerSC
FrostyOfTheNorth wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 8:47 am
Good morning,

Are any of you using a Resmed Air11 DC/DC Converter with an Ecoflow Delta 1300 (the original)?

I've tried two brands of third-party DC converters but they power off and back on every 1-2 minutes so they aren't usable. I wonder if the Resmed converter would work for running my Airsense 11 for off-grid camping.
I've used the ResMed DC /DC converters when camping, and yes, they work just fine. They stay on as long as the battery that they're connected to stays on. Sometimes you have to go to the source to get a product that works well. You might pay a little more, but you have a supported product made to do what you need it to do. Just be careful to get the right model of DC/DC converter that goes with your specific CPAP.

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:17 am
by FrostyOfTheNorth
loggerhead12 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:32 am
I'm having trouble keeping my Airsense 11 running from the Air Mini DC-DC converter with a 12-volt battery, the same one I used to power my AirCurve 10 for years. It comes on, will run for a few minutes, then dies,then comes back on, and repeats.
Did you ever figure out the solution?

I have the same problem with my Airsense 11 running on DC on my Ecoflow Delta (the original) using this third-party DC adapter: https://www.amazon.ca/HKY-Replacement-A ... 0C3R1N46D/. The CPAP restarts every 1-2 minutes, making it unusable.

I'm wondering if the Resmed DC-DC converter would work. https://support.resmed.com/en-au/access ... converter/. I messaged Resmed yesterday to ask about compatibility with the Ecoflow Delta. Their reply was "we're not able to advise further on the suitability due to it is not tested from our end."

Re: If you have ever considered a backup battery for your cpap

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 9:22 am
by FrostyOfTheNorth
RogerSC wrote:
Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:16 pm
I've used the ResMed DC /DC converters when camping, and yes, they work just fine. They stay on as long as the battery that they're connected to stays on. Sometimes you have to go to the source to get a product that works well. You might pay a little more, but you have a supported product made to do what you need it to do. Just be careful to get the right model of DC/DC converter that goes with your specific CPAP.
Are you using yours with a Delta 1300 specifically? I've tried three third-party DC adapters now that all had great reviews but all caused my Airsense 10 and later 11 to power cycle every couple minutes. That leaves me wondering about the capabilities of the Delta 1300.

I messaged Resmed yesterday to ask about compatibility but they said it has not been tested. I'd be happy to spend the money on the Resmed adapter if I knew that it would work 100% with my Delta, but nobody seems to be able to confirm that.