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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:47 pm
by LDuyer
God knows I sure do sleep better, now that I know
Liam is back!!
Hmm. Maybe
Liam is good medicine for cpap compliance!
And we don't even need a script for him!!....do we?
Linda, ....who, like everyone else, is SOOO glad
Liam's back.
Liam You're Back
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:57 pm
by gailzee
Liam:
You want to hear what my GP or PCP or LSD or whatever else he used, he told me "we were devoted about one lesson in med school about sleep "problems" and he laffed". So I knew this set me apart from HIM on sleep apnea. He did read my sleep study and say "HMMMMM" a few times, but then of course, I was sitting there.
I think as more and more come forward w/sleep OSA/OSH problems, perhaps the docs can jump onboard and maybe learn something. At least my dr. didn't toss my cookies out, study and all.
I'm not sure I agree with him on auto...but then once again, whatcha got to lose by trying one if you can?
Did you have a sleep study? I'm not sure by what you mentioned? If you didn't can u go back to the dr. who gave you the scrip and re-do the scrip for a autopap. Do you have a copy, get one?
Just glad you're back ......keep us informed, ok?
Liam1965 wrote:I appreciate that, I really do.
Current status with me, just as an update: I had my appointment with the doctor at the sleep lab. While there, I asked him about Auto Titrating CPAPs. His answer, while not the popular one, was at least a little bit more understandable than some I've heard...
He feels that Auto machines aren't sufficient because they can only detect certain types of issues. He feels a full sleep study is a better option because with the O2 sensor and the chest straps and the EEG and EKG and the rest, they can detect a lot more of what is going on than just apneic events, and can titrate a pressure which seems to have the most beneficial effect on EVERYTHING, not just breathing stoppages.
Now, how much of this makes sense I don't know. But certainly I have to agree that they can measure more with an EEG and an EKG and electrodes to detect restless leg syndrome and abdomen strips to detect chest effort while TRYING to breathe, etc.... than could possibly be measured simply by detecting variables in the flow rate and possibly the sound of a snore.
None of which helps me, if I can't get past having the machine on to the point that I can sleep, but I don't think an Auto would help that.
Liam, stripped of mask, stripped of sleep, stripped of hair, but thankfully not stripped of clothing!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:20 pm
by Mikesus
Hey RG, got an extra Auto you could loan to
Liam?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:09 pm
by rested gal
Would if I could....but I'm down to one at the moment. The others have gone to visit family, so to speak.
It's good to see you back, Liam!
Liam You're Back
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:30 pm
by Guest
Liam:
You want to hear what my GP or PCP or LSD or whatever else he used, he told me "we devoted about one lesson in med school about sleep "problems" and he laffed". So I knew this set me apart from HIM on sleep apnea. He did read my sleep study and say "HMMMMM" a few times, but then of course, I was sitting there.
I think as more and more come forward w/sleep OSA/OSH problems, perhaps the docs can jump onboard and maybe learn something. At least my dr. didn't toss my cookies out, study and all.
I'm not sure I agree with ur dr. on auto...but then once again, whatcha got to lose by trying one if you can?
Did you have a sleep study after all? I'm not sure by what you mentioned "at the sleep lab" ? If you didn't can u go back to the dr. who gave you the scrip and re-do the scrip for a autopap. Do you have a copy of the scrip , get one?
Just glad you're back ......keep us informed, ok?
Liam1965 wrote:I appreciate that, I really do.
Current status with me, just as an update: I had my appointment with the doctor at the sleep lab. While there, I asked him about Auto Titrating CPAPs. His answer, while not the popular one, was at least a little bit more understandable than some I've heard...
He feels that Auto machines aren't sufficient because they can only detect certain types of issues. He feels a full sleep study is a better option because with the O2 sensor and the chest straps and the EEG and EKG and the rest, they can detect a lot more of what is going on than just apneic events, and can titrate a pressure which seems to have the most beneficial effect on EVERYTHING, not just breathing stoppages.
Now, how much of this makes sense I don't know. But certainly I have to agree that they can measure more with an EEG and an EKG and electrodes to detect restless leg syndrome and abdomen strips to detect chest effort while TRYING to breathe, etc.... than could possibly be measured simply by detecting variables in the flow rate and possibly the sound of a snore.
None of which helps me, if I can't get past having the machine on to the point that I can sleep, but I don't think an Auto would help that.
Liam, stripped of mask, stripped of sleep, stripped of hair, but thankfully not stripped of clothing!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:53 pm
by Guest
We could consider
Liam to be our pet project. Our humanitarian project, getting him compliant. Figure, if we can get him operating successfully with his
cpap, whatever kind, then we should be able help ANYBODY...!
Go
Liam, go, go, go !!!!!
Funny dude!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:56 pm
by Guest
Good god!!
Liam's managed to get well over 600 views, just on his reputation alone!
The man is famous!
We're all aflutter with excitement!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:02 pm
by Mikesus
Anonymous wrote:Good god!!
Liam's managed to get well over 600 views, just on his reputation alone!
The man is famous!
We're all aflutter with excitement!
Was that meant to be sarcastic?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:05 pm
by Guest
Mikesus wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good god!!
Liam's managed to get well over 600 views, just on his reputation alone!
The man is famous!
We're all aflutter with excitement!
Was that meant to be sarcastic?
No, not at all. He is famous, no doubt about it, and we all love his humor.
Sorry if you thought I meant this otherwise. Didn't mean to seem sarcastic. Really.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:10 pm
by wading thru the muck!
guest wrote:No, not at all. He is famous, no doubt about it, and we all love his humor.
Sorry if you thought I meant this otherwise. Didn't mean to seem sarcastic. Really.
REALLY????
I don't understand what you have against
Liam and why do you continually post these sarcastic "compliments" about him.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:19 pm
by Guest
wading thru the muck! wrote:guest wrote:No, not at all. He is famous, no doubt about it, and we all love his humor.
Sorry if you thought I meant this otherwise. Didn't mean to seem sarcastic. Really.
REALLY????
I don't understand what you have against
Liam and why do you continually post these sarcastic "compliments" about him.
Yuck, yuck! ......
This is one funny forum!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:23 pm
by Guest
.....Something funny happened on the way to the forum....
.....but I forget what!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:54 pm
by Liam1965
By the way, FYI... Janet and I are going on a much needed retreat this weekend, we'll be driving and sans computer for two full days. (I don't know how I'll manage!)
So for all of those who were worrying when I was gone for a while: I'll be back either on Sunday night (probably late) or else sometime on Monday.
Liam, on the road again, just can't wait to get on the road again... (Less hair than Willie Nelson, but just as fugly)
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:58 pm
by Guest
We can handle your absence, knowing you'll be back to haunt, er, I mean to joke with us by Monday.
Enjoy your weekend, and don't think of us. Have a great time!!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:04 pm
by chrisp
Liam, Sleeping with
cpap is sort of like sleeping nude. The first few times you do it doesn't seem so comfortable. But once you get used to it its natural. How did I ever sleep with clothes on and How did I ever sleep without this
cpap . Just don't try learning to sleep nude AND learn to sleep with
cpap at the same time. You might overload.
Cheers,
Chris