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saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by tommcdow47 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:39 pm

I'm having issues with excessive dry mouth when using my cpap. I awake with my throat and mouth completely dry. I use a nasal pillow mask with a chin strap to help stop my mouth breathing. My machine is a dreamstation and I fill the humidifier full every night. the other night I laid awake and could not coat my teeth with saliva. I turned off the cpap and within minutes I had ample saliva to satisfy my mouth. It seems to me That the pressure from the cpap is stopping my saliva glands from secreting. I went out and brought mouthwash to help but it did nothing. I was wondering if anyone knew a solution to my problem. My pressure settings are low 5.5 and high 13.5. Could never get a face mask to fit so im stuck with the nasal pillows
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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by zonker » Tue May 30, 2023 6:50 pm

tommcdow47 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:39 pm
I was wondering if anyone knew a solution to my problem.
xylimelts.

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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by ozij » Tue May 30, 2023 8:57 pm

The pressure in not stopping your saliva glands from secreting.
The air is pouring out through your opening lips, and dries out the saliva secreted.
This will not happen with a properly fitting full face mask, or if you tape your lips.

Watch this video: https://youtu.be/dGAHEENnatw -- from Lanky Lefty about how to tape and why.

I've been taping for many many years - it works. And drop your humidity when using tape.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue May 30, 2023 9:28 pm

I see where Walmart has its house brand (Equate) for way less $$$.
Maybe I'll check it out.

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Post by ozij » Tue May 30, 2023 11:06 pm

Whichever tape you buy - try one out first to see how it feels on your lips and face.

I switched to a more expensive brand than the one recommended in the video, because it was better for my lips, and therefore worth the money for me.

It's very much a case for trial and error as to the brand. But the explanations and demonstration are the same, no matter which brand you use.

I'm a "graduate" of 3M's Micropore - had to use it with lip salve and to remove it with baby oil, and even then, sometime pealed of bits of skin around my lips. :? There was nothing better at the time

The CoverAll is much much milder and better. I know because I tried it.

But for me, Medvance Silicone is even better than that - and it can be re-used. That's for me, I'm not saying which is the best for you.

Bottom line: learn how to tape, start searching for the tape that is best for you. And then use it every night.

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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by Conrad » Wed May 31, 2023 6:42 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 9:28 pm
I see where Walmart has its house brand (Equate) for way less $$$.
Maybe I'll check it out.
Equate brand of what? Tape? Mouthwash? Xylimelts?
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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by Janknitz » Wed May 31, 2023 12:01 pm

The air flowing through your mouth (whether it flows out through your lips or not) is very drying.

Have you tried techniques to seal off your mouth from the rest of the airway?

Try this: Put your tongue on the roof of your mouth, on the ridge behind your front teeth. Now plug your nose, open you lips and try to breathe in. If you can't get any air, it means you can seal off the mouth by tongue positioning.

The way to learn to do this is to keep the tongue in that position all day unless you are talking or eating. As it becomes habit it may carry over into night time. That will stop the air from going into your mouth in the first place, and solve the issue of your mouth drying out.

It doesn't work for everyone, but it's worth a try.
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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed May 31, 2023 3:24 pm

Conrad wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 6:42 am
chunkyfrog wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 9:28 pm
I see where Walmart has its house brand (Equate) for way less $$$.
Maybe I'll check it out.
Equate brand of what? Tape? Mouthwash? Xylimelts?
Dry mouth lozenges with xylitol--no adhesive.
They are kind of big; I may break them into pieces.

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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed May 31, 2023 4:57 pm

Conrad wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 6:42 am
Xylimelts?
CVS has a house brand of generic Xylimelt disks. If you sign up for the CVS card, about once per month they will email you a coupon for 30 to 40% off on any one item. Their generic disks work as well as the Xylimelts.

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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by Conrad » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:47 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 4:57 pm
Conrad wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 6:42 am
Xylimelts?
CVS has a house brand of generic Xylimelt disks. If you sign up for the CVS card, about once per month they will email you a coupon for 30 to 40% off on any one item. Their generic disks work as well as the Xylimelts.
Thanks Granny, I'll check this out.
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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:08 am

tommcdow47 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 4:39 pm
Could never get a face mask to fit
Take one of the full face masks you have. Find the exact model on youtube. Carefully watch some videos about fitting and adjusting.

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Re: saliva glands not secreting during cpap

Post by zonker » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:09 am

Conrad wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:47 am
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 4:57 pm
Conrad wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 6:42 am
Xylimelts?
CVS has a house brand of generic Xylimelt disks. If you sign up for the CVS card, about once per month they will email you a coupon for 30 to 40% off on any one item. Their generic disks work as well as the Xylimelts.
Thanks Granny, I'll check this out.
not particularly for you, conrad. just using your post as a springboard.

rite aid also has generic xylimelts.seem to work just as well and of course at a lower price.

my beef is that they are "mint flavored" and that's not my cup of tea.

xylimelts come mint free.
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