Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

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Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by Dog Slobber » Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:59 am

I've recently had to start mouth taping, with limited success.

With tape, on many occasions I'm still blowing out one side or the other, or an airpath is being formed.

So far the best performing tape I've found is Cover-Roll Stretch 2".
  • I cut a strip 8 inches so both sides go well past the sides of my mouth
  • I cut two smaller pieces where I've noticed paths are most likely to form and reinforce
  • I purse my lips inward, before taping
I've recently seen posts about MedVance Silicone Tape 2"

Would like to hear comparisons from people who have tried both, or even a third type.
Deborah K. wrote:
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You could also switch to another tape. This is what I use:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BJ ... UTF8&psc=1

It leaves no residue at all. It can be removed and replaced. I use the same piece for a number of days.
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Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:44 pm
I too use the Medvance tape happily. And with this tape, I don't even need lip balm.

Medvance Silicone Tape 2":
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Cover-Roll Stretch 2":
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by CPAP-A-MUST » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:07 pm

This is what I do (been taping for about 18 months):

- When napping I use the MedVance Silicone Tape and reuse it about 2 -3 times. The main reason why I only use for napping is that I put lanolin on my lips at bedtime and the MedVance pulls right off.

- Every night I use 2” kinesiology tape (Griff Grips and Hampton brands). I love that it is gentle yet strong, excellent grip. effective, doesn’t leave tape residue around my mouth. It also doesn’t come loose when using lanolin on the lips. My neighbor, a CPAP user, also uses it after I introduced him to a sample last summer.

I used Cover-Roll and although it is nice and stretchy like kinesiology tape, it left residue and was so harsh it ripped my skin, primarily right below the lip. Decided it wasn’t for me unless I wanted to have sores on my face.

Wishing you best in your quest.
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by ozij » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:15 pm

Cover-Roll sticks stronger, can't be reused, may leave a bit of residue. At a pressure of 8.6, I can use a 1'' strip, so cut Cover-Roll in half -- but in the last roll I bought, the protecting paper was not symetrical -- annoying when you want to make a 2" strip into 1"; otherwise irrelevant.

Medvance is softer, milder, can be cut without scissors since it has perforations - don't know how that functions in the 2" version, I only tried the 1". No, the perforations don't let air through. No paper on the back. Can be removed easily, without residue, and can be re-used. I really like how gentle it is - but have found myself debating whether to buy a 2" strip.

I've had blowing out from the sides too - possibly more with the MedVance - and its higher price probably makes me cut it too short... You have to make sure to press it firmly.
It may also be more sensitive to humidity from the mask - especially the Bleep variants.

To summarize:
If the most important thing for you is only the seal - Cover-Roll is more reliable.
If comfort comes in...
You could also combine: Use Cover Roll to bolster the corner, MedVance for the larger area across your lips.
The comfort of the MedVance is a big temptation for me. And I'm thinking buying the 2 inch strip.

Way back when, I used to use 3M Paper Hypoallergenic. Would never go back to it: Removing it has to be done with baby oil and takes time. Even then, may leave residue. Has at times removed some skin from under my lips - it was good when there was no alternative but now alternatives exist.

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by Dog Slobber » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:03 pm

ozij wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:15 pm
Cover-Roll sticks stronger
CPAP-A-MUST wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:07 pm
I used Cover-Roll and although it is nice and stretchy like kinesiology tape, it left residue and was so harsh it ripped my skin, primarily right below the lip. Decided it wasn’t for me unless I wanted to have sores on my face.
Thank you both.

Residue hasn't been a problem and my priority is a strong grip, so appears that Cover-Roll Stretch is the preferred choice so far.




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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by Deborah K. » Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:14 am

I started with the 1" Medvance, but It was too narrow. I switched to the 2" and it works a lot better for me. To avoid leaking I like to cut the piece 4 or 5 inches long. It is pricey but I get several days out of each piece. Also, the 2" tape is a little thicker, which I like. Maybe that is why I have to cut it with scissors. The 1" is perforated and can be torn quite easily.
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by vespagirl » Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm

Deborah K. wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:14 am
I started with the 1" Medvance, but It was too narrow for me. I switched to the 2" and it works a lot better for me. To avoid leaking I like to cut the piece 4 or 5 inches long. It is pricey but I get several days out of each piece. Also, the 2" tape is a little thicker, which I like. Maybe that is why I have to cut it with scissors. The 1" is perforated and can be torn quite easily.
Technical question regarding taping the mouth- is the purpose to cover the mouth completely so no air can escape? I've seen that some people tape vertically just at the center of the mouth. I tried this and (being a chronic mouth breather) I just exhaled around the tape. Should I tape my mouth completely (horizontally) without any slits in the tape? Thanks for any sugggestions. I have been using the airfit F30 and recently have developed a lot of leakage so am thinking of trying my P10 nasal pillows for a change, but will definitely need to tape my mouth.

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by CPAP-A-MUST » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:28 pm

vespagirl wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
Technical question regarding taping the mouth- is the purpose to cover the mouth completely so no air can escape? I've seen that some people tape vertically just at the center of the mouth. I tried this and (being a chronic mouth breather) I just exhaled around the tape. Should I tape my mouth completely (horizontally) without any slits in the tape? Thanks for any sugggestions. I have been using the airfit F30 and recently have developed a lot of leakage so am thinking of trying my P10 nasal pillows for a change, but will definitely need to tape my mouth.
I breathe through my nose all the time and use tape horizontally across my entire mouth to keep my mouth from dropping open. I tried a short vertical strip and found that air was escaping from the open sides.
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by ozij » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:13 pm

vespagirl wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
Technical question regarding taping the mouth- is the purpose to cover the mouth completely so no air can escape? I've seen that some people tape vertically just at the center of the mouth. I tried this and (being a chronic mouth breather)...
As a chronic mouth breather, you shouldn't tape your mouth. You have to use a full face mask.
Taping as described by CPAP-A-MUST only works if you're a mouth leaker.
I am an uncontrollable mouth leaker when I sleep; have to cover my mouth completely and go well out to both side in order to keep the pressurized air from pouring out of my mouth. It has nothing to do with my chin dropping open, but rather with the seal between my nose and mouth being breached by the pressure. When not asleep, I'm a 100% nose breather. It's an important distinction.

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by Deborah K. » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:36 pm

I need to tape so that no air (or as little as possible) escapes. The 2" wide Medvance tape works well for me. I don't mouth breath during the day, and at night a little air leaks out if I don't tape. It looks weird on my face but I really don't notice it once I have it in place.
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by remstarcpap » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:10 pm

I like the Medvance 2 inch tape, and get 2-4 nights from each piece depending on how careful I am when I stick it to the Cpap or the headboard. Used to use blue painters tape, but worried that I was poisoning myself.

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by vespagirl » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:06 am

ozij wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:13 pm
vespagirl wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:38 pm
Technical question regarding taping the mouth- is the purpose to cover the mouth completely so no air can escape? I've seen that some people tape vertically just at the center of the mouth. I tried this and (being a chronic mouth breather)...
As a chronic mouth breather, you shouldn't tape your mouth. You have to use a full face mask.
Taping as described by CPAP-A-MUST only works if you're a mouth leaker.
I am an uncontrollable mouth leaker when I sleep; have to cover my mouth completely and go well out to both side in order to keep the pressurized air from pouring out of my mouth. It has nothing to do with my chin dropping open, but rather with the seal between my nose and mouth being breached by the pressure. When not asleep, I'm a 100% nose breather. It's an important distinction.
I am a mouth breather AND when I use my F30 mask I get these burps out the side of the mask as soon as my facial muscles relax at all. I've read that lots of people tape their mouths while using a nasal pillow mask. Why wouldn't I want to do that as well?

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by ozij » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:07 am

vespagirl wrote:
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am a mouth breather AND when I use my F30 mask I get these burps out the side of the mask as soon as my facial muscles relax at all. I've read that lots of people tape their mouths while using a nasal pillow mask. Why wouldn't I want to do that as well?
If you need your mouth for breathing, and you tape it, how will you breathe? If you don't have to breathe through your mouth, that's a different story.

When I use my F30, I drop my jaw when fitting it - to make sure it leaks as little as possible. But it more difficult the higher your pressure.

If your issue is jaw drop, people have been happy with a cervical collar, it keeps their jaw (is it jaws?) from dropping - never tried it myself.

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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by zonker » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:00 am

ozij wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:07 am


If your issue is jaw drop, people have been happy with a cervical collar, it keeps their jaw (is it jaws?) from dropping - never tried it myself.
jaw. jaws refers to the whole mouth.
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Re: Cover-Roll Stretch vs MedVance Silicone Tape

Post by vespagirl » Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:25 pm

ozij wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:07 am
vespagirl wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:06 am
am a mouth breather AND when I use my F30 mask I get these burps out the side of the mask as soon as my facial muscles relax at all. I've read that lots of people tape their mouths while using a nasal pillow mask. Why wouldn't I want to do that as well?
If you need your mouth for breathing, and you tape it, how will you breathe? If you don't have to breathe through your mouth, that's a different story.

When I use my F30, I drop my jaw when fitting it - to make sure it leaks as little as possible. But it more difficult the higher your pressure.

If your issue is jaw drop, people have been happy with a cervical collar, it keeps their jaw (is it jaws?) from dropping - never tried it myself.
I don't HAVE to breathe through my mouth. I just do. My nasal passages are clear.