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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by robysue1 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:38 pm

Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:34 pm
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:35 pm
[*]Reports of SD Card issues and seating problems resulting in missing detail data
Can you tell me more about the problems with the SD card?
Most people have no trouble with a program like Oscar reading the data on the SD card from a Resmed AirSense 11. But a few people have found that if they are not careful when inserting the card into the AirSense 11, some of the data is missing when they try to look at it in Oscar.

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[*]Still doesn't have tan established track history, but no serious red-flags
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My online translator is unable to translate this text. Explain, please, what is meant?
The AirSense 11 has not been around long enough to establish a clear record of reliability. But there are no indications that the AirSense 11 will have any significant reliability problems.

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Many are still sticking with the Air10 as replacement machines, but it is becoming difficult to get one with a modem.
Explain, please, why does a СPAP car need a modem?
In the US many patients purchase CPAP equipment through their medical insurance. Typically the patient pays for part of the machine and the insurance company pays for part of the machine. (The better insurance companies may pay for 80% of the cost of the machine.). But in order for the durable medical equipment company to be paid by the insurance company, the patient has to be "compliant" with CPAP therapy. And many durable medical equipment providers are now using a cellular network to directly download data from the AirSense 10 and AirSense 11 CPAP/APAPs that allows them to prove to the insurance company that the patient is using the machine enough to be compliant.

The durable medical equipment providers and some doctors offices can also use the cellular connection to download data to verify that the settings on the CPAP are providing effective treatment, and in some parts of the US, the durable medical equipment providers and doctors offices can make changes to the settings on the machine through the cellular connection and thus reduce the need for the patient to bring the machine back to the place they bought it from.

In the US, the G3 cellular network (our slowest cellular network) was turned off about a year or so ago. And many of the AirSense 10s had been sold with G3 cellular modems in them. And when Resmed ran into problems obtaining enough G4 and/or G5 modems, they focused on putting all the available G4/G5 modems into the AirSense 11 machines. Since AirSense 10 machines all had SD card slots, the AirSense 10 machines without up-to-date cellular modems started being sold as "Card to Cloud" machines. "Card to Cloud" simply means that if the SD card is brought into the durable medical equipment provider or the doctor's office, they can upload the data from the card into Resmed's Cloud storage for CPAP data.
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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by Dzyan » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:44 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Most people have no trouble with a program like Oscar reading the data on the SD card from a Resmed AirSense 11. But a few people have found that if they are not careful when inserting the card into the AirSense 11, some of the data is missing when they try to look at it in Oscar.
Thank you for the complete answer to my questions. When I installed the latest version of Oscar 1.4.0 on my laptop, before reading the SD card, the program warned me to lock my card before reading. Is this the problem and its solution?

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by loggerhead12 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:45 pm

Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:36 pm
Why transfer data to Resmed's MyAir app if you have an Oscar?
They are complementary tools that serve different purposes. MyAir gives a quick overview of your night with AHI, leak rate, hours of use, and how many times you took your mask off. OSCAR provides far more details of many more measurements so your night can be analyzed minute by minute. If everything looks good in MyAir and you feel rested, there is no need to look at OSCAR, but when things go wrong OSCAR is the tool to use.

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by robysue1 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:45 pm

Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:36 pm
loggerhead12 wrote:
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The CPAP machines use the cellular modem to transmit your data to the Resmed cloud. My results show up in Resmed's MyAir app, and my sleep doc can also see it to see how I'm doing.
Why transfer data to Resmed's MyAir app if you have an Oscar?
Most who use Oscar would agree with you.

The data available in Resmed's MyAir app is limited and not much better than what you can get directly off the machine's LCD. If you want a quick check on how things are going, the machine's LCD gives you more useful information in terms of the breakdown of the AHI and leak data than MyAir does. Still there are people who like MyAir as a quick check on how things are going.

If you are needing to do serious troubleshooting because something is not yet optimized or something seems to be going wrong, you really do need the detailed data in Oscar to figure what the problems are. And once you know what the problems are, you can then start working on fixing them.
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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by robysue1 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:52 pm

loggerhead12 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:45 pm
Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:36 pm
Why transfer data to Resmed's MyAir app if you have an Oscar?
They are complementary tools that serve different purposes. MyAir gives a quick overview of your night with AHI, leak rate, hours of use, and how many times you took your mask off.
All of this except for the number of times you took the mask off is available directly from the machine's LCD in the "Sleep Report"---as long as the sleep "Essentials" setting is set to Plus.

Moreover the machine's LCD gives you a breakdown of the AHI into AI and CAI, from which it is easy to calculate the HI and OAI if you want.

In other words, if I want just a snapshot of how things are going because I'm feeling pretty good on most days, I just look at the machine's LCD sleep report. It's easier than dragging my cell phone out to load an app.
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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by robysue1 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:15 pm

Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:44 pm
robysue1 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Most people have no trouble with a program like Oscar reading the data on the SD card from a Resmed AirSense 11. But a few people have found that if they are not careful when inserting the card into the AirSense 11, some of the data is missing when they try to look at it in Oscar.
Thank you for the complete answer to my questions. When I installed the latest version of Oscar 1.4.0 on my laptop, before reading the SD card, the program warned me to lock my card before reading. Is this the problem and its solution?
Way back in the days of the Resmed S9s (about 8-12 years ago), Resmed machines were very, very picky about anything being written to the SD card by a device other than the S9 itself. (Philips Respironics machines were not picky about this even way back then.)

And Macintosh computers and some PCs at the time were notorious about writing hidden "dot files" to unlocked SD card that were used in some way by the computer's operating system. Those hidden "dot files" written by the computer's operating system would result in SD card errors when they were re-inserted into the S9's card slot. Locking the SD card before inserting it into the computer was enough to locking the card before putting it into the computer was enough to prevent the computer's operating system from writing the hidden "dot files" to the SD card. And back then it was also important to remember to unlock the card when you put it back in the Resmed S9 so that the S9 could write the new data to the card.

The Resmed AirCurve 10 that I now use doesn't seem to care if my Macintosh writes a hidden "dot file". I routinely forget to "lock" the card before inserting it into my Mac and the AirCurve 10 never objects to the card when I stick it back in the AirCurve's SD slot.

But if you want to be extra cautious, then you can still lock the SD card: There should be a slider on the top left of the SD card. The "Up" position is Unlocked and the "Down" position is Locked. Just remember to slide the slider back to its Up (Unlocked) position before you put the card back in the CPAP machine.
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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by RE144 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:55 pm

I just got my 11 a few days ago.......

Here is what I have discovered......

All of the above is pretty much true.

The water chamber looks and feels smaller but probably isn't... I don't much care for the smashed smaller design of the chamber, just personal opion....

I did run out of water the first night... but upon looking at how it was configured , I took off the auto and put in my humidity number and tube temp back to what I had with my 10 and all is well now for me in that department.

Being older I like the 10 visuals better..... a bit bigger screen and letters so it was easier to read.

If you are going to use MY Air app on your mobile, it won't be available for some time after shutting off the 11.

It seems to me to be a quieter running machine than the 10 and the 10 was a quiet CPAP.
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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by loggerhead12 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:31 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:52 pm
In other words, if I want just a snapshot of how things are going because I'm feeling pretty good on most days, I just look at the machine's LCD sleep report. It's easier than dragging my cell phone out to load an app.
Pulling my phone out of my pocket whenever it's convenient is easier than crawling under my bed to look at the display. :D

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by Dzyan » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:22 am

RE144 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:55 pm
All of the above is pretty much true.
What other comments do you have about the 11th model, apart from the ones you listed?

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by Dog Slobber » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:53 am

Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:34 pm
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:35 pm
[*]Reports of SD Card issues and seating problems resulting in missing detail data
Can you tell me more about the problems with the SD card?
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:35 pm
[*]Still doesn't have tan established track history, but no serious red-flags
[/list]
My online translator is unable to translate this text. Explain, please, what is meant?
Dog Slobber wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:35 pm
Many are still sticking with the Air10 as replacement machines, but it is becoming difficult to get one with a modem.
Explain, please, why does a СPAP car need a modem?
Robysue did an excellent job re-interpreting my responses. Thank you!
Dzyan wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:44 pm
Thank you for the complete answer to my questions. When I installed the latest version of Oscar 1.4.0 on my laptop, before reading the SD card, the program warned me to lock my card before reading. Is this the problem and its solution?
No, it's not the problem or the solution.

The need to hard-lock the SD Card was a problem unique to the ResMed S9 models, and no longer an issue,

The alleged issue with the Air11 is a higher number of people reporting missing detail data when they go to import their data into OSCAR.

The higher number of reports is anecdotal. Could be a difference in SD Card reader design, could be user error, could be nothing.

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by sreiter » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:29 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:00 pm
palerider wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:25 pm
Resmed hasn't changed capacity since 2010 when the S9 was introduced, (can't speak to the S8

If someone is running out of water in one night....something weird is going on
Hmm - I have a AirSense 10 AutoSet. I run dry a majority of the time, and the times I dont, theres about .25" or less water. I fill to the max line. Humidity is 5, temp is 85. Is there a problem or is that normal for my settings?

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by sreiter » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:42 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Since AirSense 10 machines all had SD card slots, the AirSense 10 machines without up-to-date cellular modems started being sold as "Card to Cloud" machines. "Card to Cloud" simply means that if the SD card is brought into the durable medical equipment provider or the doctor's office, they can upload the data from the card into Resmed's Cloud storage for CPAP data.
Granted, I bought my machine 10 years ago (time for a new one), but I didnt receive a SD card with mine. I had to go to my DME provider and request it. Maybe they took the card before delivering it???

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by Pugsy » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:57 pm

sreiter wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:29 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:00 pm
palerider wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:25 pm
Resmed hasn't changed capacity since 2010 when the S9 was introduced, (can't speak to the S8

If someone is running out of water in one night....something weird is going on
Hmm - I have a AirSense 10 AutoSet. I run dry a majority of the time, and the times I dont, theres about .25" or less water. I fill to the max line. Humidity is 5, temp is 85. Is there a problem or is that normal for my settings?
Well...I am using the AirCurve 10 VAuto....humidity set to 8 and hose air temp is 84 and I haven't had it go dry yet with 8 hours of use.

Several factors will affect how much water gets consumed.

1...primary factor is ambient humidity...the drier your ambient air in the bedroom the more water will get used
2...the there's pressures used (higher pressures will consume more water from the chamber)
3...leaks or rather big leaks. The more time someone spends in large leak territory the more water gets used up.
4...how many hours was the machine on? I start getting a dry water chamber if I use the machine about 9 hours which simply doesn't happen unless I am sick. I can't lay in bed that long. It's a good night if I get 7 1/2 hours and I always have more than a few drops of water in the chamber.

All of those factors are what I meant when I said something weird is going on.
Might be a problem but also might be that someone lives in the desert and ambient humidity is really low and they use pressures in the teens and like to get 9 hours of sleep.....and yep I can pretty much guarantee the water chamber will run dry in that situation. Not everything means something is "wrong". I can also be just physics doing what physics does.

Ambient humidity is probably going to have the lion's share of the blame for using up water depending on what someone prefers as their humidity selection.

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Re: ResMed Airsense Auto 11

Post by sreiter » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:08 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:57 pm

Well...I am using the AirCurve 10 VAuto....humidity set to 8 and hose air temp is 84 and I haven't had it go dry yet with 8 hours of use.

Several factors will affect how much water gets consumed.

1...primary factor is ambient humidity...the drier your ambient air in the bedroom the more water will get used
2...the there's pressures used (higher pressures will consume more water from the chamber)
3...leaks or rather big leaks. The more time someone spends in large leak territory the more water gets used up.
4...how many hours was the machine on? I start getting a dry water chamber if I use the machine about 9 hours which simply doesn't happen unless I am sick. I can't lay in bed that long. It's a good night if I get 7 1/2 hours and I always have more than a few drops of water in the chamber.

All of those factors are what I meant when I said something weird is going on.
Might be a problem but also might be that someone lives in the desert and ambient humidity is really low and they use pressures in the teens and like to get 9 hours of sleep.....and yep I can pretty much guarantee the water chamber will run dry in that situation. Not everything means something is "wrong". I can also be just physics doing what physics does.

Ambient humidity is probably going to have the lion's share of the blame for using up water depending on what someone prefers as their humidity selection.
I keep my home around 35% humidity.

Sleep time is what made me think "issue". I only sleep 4-5 hours a night.

thank you for your response.