Gave up coffee...wow!

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Gave up coffee...wow!

Post by joeljjk11 » Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:06 pm

I gave up coffee about a month ago due to it starting to bother my stomach and cause anxiety. I cannot believe how solidly I sleep and the dreams I have! Especially within the first week or so of giving it up. Anyone else find giving up coffee helped their sleep quality and quantity? Also highly recommend the book Why We Sleep by Dr Matthew Walker, great book so far.

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Post by Julie » Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:00 pm

Glad you feel better and don't want to spoil it, but having memorable dreams (in both respects) isn't always a good thing... Can you do a couple of Oscar charts to see what they say?

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:04 pm

joeljjk11 wrote:
Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:06 pm
I gave up coffee about a month ago due to it starting to bother my stomach and cause anxiety. I cannot believe how solidly I sleep and the dreams I have! Especially within the first week or so of giving it up. Anyone else find giving up coffee helped their sleep quality and quantity? Also highly recommend the book Why We Sleep by Dr Matthew Walker, great book so far.
I did that years ago. I won't even have a small piece of chocolate after 2:00 p.m. In my case, it is strictly the impact of caffeine on the brain and has nothing to do with my stomach.

Julie is right. Humans do not remember dreams they sleep through. They have to awaken to remember a dream. I hope you are only remembering, at most, two or three dreams per night.

You don't happen to be taking melatonin supplements do you?

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Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:26 pm

I suppose washing melatonin down with decaf is not OK?

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Post by Conrad » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:21 am

Giving up coffee? That's crazy talk right there!!!

What times of the day were you drinking your coffee and how much did you drink?

As was already stated. If you're remembering your dreams, it means that you woke up during that dream, at least partially.
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Post by amenite » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:01 am

I'm not allowed to quit - I belong to the Coffee Generation :) Not quite a cult, but resembles a lifestyle ...

https://youtu.be/rmq4JUDzTAw

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:20 pm

Caffeine is the second active ingredient in OTC migraine tablets.
If going cold turkey, beware of the headaches

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Post by Sheriff Buford » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:27 am

How much coffee were you dinking? Did you drink coffee all day?

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Post by jlsmithseven » Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:05 am

In my own experience I used to drink coffee all day long, even up to 8pm. Then My Doctor told me don't drink it after 2pm so I did that, minor change to sleep. Then my Doctor told me to stop drinking after 12pm and that worked a little better. I stick to it everyday. I also try to only drink one cup of 16 oz max per morning because if I drink anymore than that I won't sleep well. Caffeine has a huge effect on my ability to stay asleep. I think anyone who has mask issues keeping it on or just staying asleep would benefit from drinking less coffee and definitely stop after 12pm. It's very hard because I love coffee in the morning. I heard success with doing half caffeine and half decaf so I'm going to try that. I only picked coffee up because of my poor sleep quality but I just love the taste that even if I sleep well I drink it. I think decaf will help with that I just don't think it's healthy how they process it.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:25 pm

jlsmithseven wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:05 am
I think decaf will help with that I just don't think it's healthy how they process it.
People with zero understanding of science spread false information about this. Some of the decaffeination processes use solvents. Decaffeination is done to green, unroasted coffee beans. Then the beans are washed, steamed, and roasted at temperatures that evaporate all the liquids used in decaffeination.

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Post by icipher » Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:35 pm

Interesting...

Drinking a couple cups of coffee in the morning shouldn't have much if any impact on sleeping at night. But good on you, even if it's placebo.

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Post by lazarus » Sun Feb 05, 2023 5:52 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:25 pm
evaporate all the liquids used in decaffeination.
Perhaps not quite "all."
In both processes the solvents are rinsed or evaporated out of the green beans and further vaporize upon roasting, meaning that only the tiniest trace amounts (which are deemed safe for consumption) are ever present in the decaffeinated beans you purchase.--https://www.britannica.com/story/how-is ... affeinated
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Post by lazarus » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:19 pm

icipher wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:35 pm
Drinking a couple cups of coffee in the morning shouldn't have much if any impact on sleeping at night.
Perhaps true for the average healthy adult.

But some people are especially sensitive to such substances and find sleep benefits and awake benefits from total abstinence or from a temporary break from it.

If someone has zero anxiety trouble and zero sleep trouble, I say, "drink up." Otherwise, I say, "try avoiding all sources of caffeine completely for a while to see if that makes a difference; if nothing improves, then drink up."

Worth a try. It's free. Might even save ya a few bucks that add up quickly. You can always go back to it and even titrate an amount that you can tolerate if you find you benefit from the break. Just remember to factor in a decent withdrawal period before judging the result(s) of the personal experiment.
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Re: Gave up coffee...wow!

Post by icipher » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:22 pm

lazarus wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:19 pm
icipher wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 4:35 pm
Drinking a couple cups of coffee in the morning shouldn't have much if any impact on sleeping at night.
Perhaps true for the average healthy adult.

But some people are especially sensitive to such substances and find sleep benefits and awake benefits from total abstinence or from a temporary break from it.

If someone has zero anxiety trouble and zero sleep trouble, I say, "drink up." Otherwise, I say, "try avoiding all sources of caffeine completely for a while to see if that makes a difference; if nothing improves, then drink up."

Worth a try. It's free. Might even save ya a few bucks that add up quickly.
Good point. If someone has issues with anxiety, I could definitely see how complete abstinence from caffeine could help with sleep issues.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:24 pm

If you are going to go chemophobic, acrylamide occurs naturally in coffee beans and is still there in brewed coffee.
The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classifies acrylamide as a “probable human carcinogen.”
The US National Toxicology Program (NTP) has classified acrylamide as “reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen.”
The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) classifies acrylamide as “likely to be carcinogenic to humans.”
After you consider that, research some of the other chemicals that occur naturally in coffee - Dimethyl disulfide, 3,5-Di-caffeoylquinic acid, trigonelline, quinic acid and others.