Bleep Eclipse...so far

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Miss Emerita » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:08 pm

I stretched the ports HARD and it made almost no difference to their overall length and configuration. Last night, the noise was so loud and irritating that I got up, peeled off the halos, and went back to the old bleep. I sure do wish I could figure out how to get the new bleep to quiet down. I may be one of those people who will just have to hope the old bleep stays in production.
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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by corgan115 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:03 pm

Interesting, either I am getting used to the noise or the pulling on the ports as Stuart suggested did work as I didn't hear any noise last night. I also independently found that hose management might be playing a role. I noticed that if there are sharp bends in the hose attached to the Bleep mask that I could hear more noise. I had originally set up my hose holder and management system when I was using the P30i, which attaches at the top of the head. A reconfiguration was in order anyways.

I would recommend reaching out to Stuart and seeing if he can provide any suggestions. I am thinking your mask is noisier than mine as even when it was "bad" it didn't bother me that much.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Miss Emerita » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:20 pm

Thanks, corgan115. I’ll fiddle some more with hose position.
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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by jlsmithseven » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:59 pm

Miss Emerita wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:20 pm
Thanks, corgan115. I’ll fiddle some more with hose position.
I did manage to get the noise to stop one time but I forget how. I think it had to do with the filter black wrap location. I could be wrong but it felt like that is where my noise was coming from.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Miss Emerita » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:57 pm

jlsmithseven wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:59 pm
Miss Emerita wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:20 pm
Thanks, corgan115. I’ll fiddle some more with hose position.
I did manage to get the noise to stop one time but I forget how. I think it had to do with the filter black wrap location. I could be wrong but it felt like that is where my noise was coming from.
Huh. I’ll fiddle with that too!
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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by JimmyStewart » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:59 pm

Wasn't sure if I should start a new thread, but this seemed to fit.

Started using eclipse 5 days ago. Every night, I have had adhesive failure between metal rings and pad -- ring pulls away, causing huge leak (Adhesive is secure between pad and nose).

Never had this problem with dreamports.

I have made sure interface is right side up -- bumps on outside.
Halo rings are centered over nostrils.
I made sure interface is fully extended

VERY FRUSTRATING!

Any suggestions?

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:18 pm

JimmyStewart wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:59 pm
Started using eclipse 5 days ago. Every night, I have had adhesive failure between metal rings and pad -- ring pulls away, causing huge leak (Adhesive is secure between pad and nose).
JimmyStewart wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:59 pm
Any suggestions?
Contact Stuart and explain your problem.

I have heard of one other person saying that the metal rings have come off the adhesive prematurely.
I haven't ever had that happen...either when I did the Beta testing or more recently with 3 weeks of use of the newly supplied Eclipse.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by weroberts75 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:37 pm

I had a similar problem the 2nd and 3rd nights with Eclipse: in my case loud, whooshing air that I couldn't tell where it was coming from, but when I put a little pressure with my fingertips on the underside of the Halos, it stopped. (Of course I had to remove the Eclipse, because I couldn't go back to sleep holding it in place all night.) I figured out my issue and have had only good sleep since. I'll explain:

My first two nights with Eclipse went perfectly. I put them on, went to sleep, and was out solid for at least seven hours. But then, I had a couple of nights where I woke up a little earlier than necessary and pulled on the mask before I was fully awake. Sometimes in the night I still, after seven years of CPAP, want to just sleep without CPAP for that last couple of hours. I was so used to the DreamPorts, with their quick release sockets, that I was trying to take off the Eclipse the same way.

When I figured out what was happening, I told myself before going to bed the next night, "Slide the magnets, don't pull on them." I told myself this several times as I went to bed.

That has been well over a week ago. I haven't had any issues since, and removing the Eclipse without pulling on it is now a smooth, natural motion that requires little thought.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by corgan115 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:47 pm

Curious if anyone has had any more experience or possible fixes for the Eclipse inhalation noise.

Interestingly enough, last night while attempting to fall asleep I heard it, and it was a bit loud. I could hear it over my noise machine. I fiddled with it a bit and there was no change. I ended up falling asleep anyways.

In the middle of the night I woke up and noticed the noise was gone, which was interesting because at this point my machine was at a higher pressure then it was when I heard it earlier.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by ReverseBall » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:53 pm

Has anyone noticed a "turbulence/snoring" of the air when using the eclipse? It's as if the air is getting "chopped" up rather than a smooth continuous flow. Analogy: if you have ever played a woodwind instrument before like a clarinet, it feels similar to when something is lodged in the clarinet (e.g some residue from not cleaning it regularly) and making a pulsing vibration rather than a nice clean sound. Or for people who snore, it's almost as if the mask itself is "snoring". Very loud and the sensation is quite distracting. To be explicit, this is not me snoring, it is the airflow in the mask that is producing this effect.

The culprit appears to be the joint where the hose attaches to the vent piece. You know how this joint allows a bit of pivoting motion? I have found that with the joint at a neutral position, the "snoring" effect does not happen, but if you allow the hose to have a downwards angle (as is common during sleeping) the snoring effect occurs. I have tried this both with and without the vent diffuser cotton - having the vent diffuser seems to help ever so slightly because it prevents the hose from pivoting around as much at the joint, but the snoring is still there. I will try to play around a bit more tonight to see if I can find a way to enforce the neutral position a bit more.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by corgan115 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:28 pm

I think this is what I'm hearing. I'll try your suggestion.

To be clear though, the noise that I'm referring to ONLY happens during inhalation. For example:

1) Don't have the mask attached at all and just turn your machine. Then, using yours thumbs, place them over the magnetic ports. The mask is completely quiet.
2) Have the mask on and attached to the halo's but hold your breath. The mask is completely quiet.
3) Start breathing, I hear the noise during inhalation only. Exhalation is completely quiet.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:43 pm

Sorry guys and gals....the Eclipse is still totally silent for me. I can't fix a problem that I don't have.
The only time I have had any inhale noise at all was what I mentioned above...material of my PJs blocking vents.

I do keep trying to hear any sort of noise so that I can troubleshoot the cause and a maybe fix but I simply don't hear anything.
Nothing....it's actually quieter than the P10 and I didn't think that was possible.

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by ReverseBall » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:45 pm

corgan115 wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:28 pm
I think this is what I'm hearing. I'll try your suggestion.

To be clear though, the noise that I'm referring to ONLY happens during inhalation. For example:

1) Don't have the mask attached at all and just turn your machine. Then, using yours thumbs, place them over the magnetic ports. The mask is completely quiet.
2) Have the mask on and attached to the halo's but hold your breath. The mask is completely quiet.
3) Start breathing, I hear the noise during inhalation only. Exhalation is completely quiet.
Hey, was this a response to me? In a linear thread it's a little confusing, but I was the one talking about the "turbulence/snoring" sound coming from the mask when the hose was at a bad angle in a previous comment. I think we might be having the same problem?

Assuming you were talking to me, I think the "snoring" sound would only happen during inhalation. I believe when the hose is at a bad angle AND you are inhaling, the air brushes up against the side of the joint as it flows by, causing turbulence/noise. If there is little to no net air flow (as in case 1 and 2 you described), there would be no turbulence because there is no air flow (well, there's a tiny bit of air flow due to the vents, but it's not enough to cause noise). But when inhaling there is a lot of air flow, enough to trigger the "snoring" effect. In exhale, I don't believe there's as much air going through that joint so no noise. Does this seem similar to your observations?

I'm curious what pressures you are using? I have a vauto at about 10.6 cm H2O inhale, about 7 exhale. This is just a guess, but I would imagine that people using lower pressures wouldn't produce the snoring effect, even on inhale.
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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by jlsmithseven » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:45 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:43 pm
Sorry guys and gals....the Eclipse is still totally silent for me. I can't fix a problem that I don't have.
The only time I have had any inhale noise at all was what I mentioned above...material of my PJs blocking vents.

I do keep trying to hear any sort of noise so that I can troubleshoot the cause and a maybe fix but I simply don't hear anything.
Nothing....it's actually quieter than the P10 and I didn't think that was possible.
Just curious Pugsy. Did you get your Eclipse before it was released to the public? I've experienced similar things to the others here with the noise and the rings coming undone. I'm just curious if you bought the connector hose system with the big shipment that came a few weeks ago or if you had it originally? Might be worth mentioning to Stuart if you are using the one before the big shipments. They might be able to use it to figure out what's different?

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Re: Bleep Eclipse...so far

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:59 pm

jlsmithseven wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:45 pm
Pugsy wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:43 pm
Sorry guys and gals....the Eclipse is still totally silent for me. I can't fix a problem that I don't have.
The only time I have had any inhale noise at all was what I mentioned above...material of my PJs blocking vents.

I do keep trying to hear any sort of noise so that I can troubleshoot the cause and a maybe fix but I simply don't hear anything.
Nothing....it's actually quieter than the P10 and I didn't think that was possible.
Just curious Pugsy. Did you get your Eclipse before it was released to the public? I've experienced similar things to the others here with the noise and the rings coming undone. I'm just curious if you bought the connector hose system with the big shipment that came a few weeks ago or if you had it originally? Might be worth mentioning to Stuart if you are using the one before the big shipments. They might be able to use it to figure out what's different?

Nope. I didn't get any special treatment in terms of early delivery of the Eclipse. My supplies came as I did the pre order early last summer and I got my Eclipse box just a couple of weeks ago just like you guys did. I didn't get anything special.

Now I do still have the original Beta product that I got a couple of years ago....it is silent as well.

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