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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by Janknitz » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm

Has anybody here had a DME change the settings remotely in --say--the past 3 years, EXCEPT in the situations when a physician prescribed a different setting and sent the order to the DME to update the machine accordingly?

In other words, as DME's consolidate more and more into a few big companies with their eyes on the bottom line and not on actual patient care (lip service or not), do they really have people whose job it is to check each machine remotely and make sure the settings match the prescriptions on a regular basis? Perhaps when it's time to document compliance, but even then it's been years since I have seen anyone here complain that the DME monkeyed with their settings remotely without telling them. Back in the day there were tales of DME's and/or clinics resetting via the SD card when people brought them or sent them in manually to show mostly compliance data. But since it's all been "over the air", has anyone actually had that experience???

I also note that it's been rare in the last several years that anybody's reported their doctor pays attention to the settings enough to notice they've been changed and then mentioned that. Chunky is the first I've heard of this in a while. Obviously this is not a scientific study, but it seems like there were a lot more complaints in my earlier years of CPAP than recent years.

If it doesn't make money for the DME or doctor to care, they probably don't.

I keep my ResMed on Airplane Mode because the machine is mine, therefore I own the data. I don't have to prove my 100% compliance to anyone. If I needed help from the sleep clinic to review settings and suggest changes, then I would share the data for that express purpose, but I do not. When I go on Medicare, if I stay with an advantage plan (hopefully NOT) to obtain my machine I will never own the machine and might have to prove compliance periodically. But I won't get my machine through an advantage plan, I will save up for my own machine, because I'm that kind of control freak. :lol: (and I won't have to play Crapria games ever again!!!).
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by zonker » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:21 pm

Conrad wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:51 am
zonker wrote:
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just by the way, has anyone noticed that the op hasn't come back?

kinda hard to bully someone who isn't here.
Never stopped the bullies before.
legitimate question-what do you consider bullying?
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by lazarus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:22 pm

Granny scares me.
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by zonker » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:23 pm

lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:22 pm
Granny scares me.
yes, but is she bullying you?
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by lazarus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:27 pm

zonker wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:23 pm
lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:22 pm
Granny scares me.
yes, but is she bullying you?
Well, she hasn't posted a gif telling me to "get out" yet.

:lol:
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by zonker » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:30 pm

lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:27 pm
zonker wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:23 pm
lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:22 pm
Granny scares me.
yes, but is she bullying you?
Well, she hasn't posted a gif telling me to "get out" yet.

:lol:
she has a much higher tolerance for puns than some other people.
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Post by lazarus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:54 pm

People are funny
From what I've seen
Some are hurt easily
Some can be mean
Some bully trolls
Others troll bullies
Most just post
To help out newbies
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by zonker » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:58 pm

lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:54 pm
People are funny
From what I've seen
Some are hurt easily
Some can be mean
Some bully trolls
Others troll bullies
Most just post
To help out newbies
hey!
you're a poet
and don't know it
your feet sure do
they're long fellows
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:14 pm

Janknitz wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm
Back in the day there were tales of DME's and/or clinics resetting via the SD card when people brought them or sent them in manually to show mostly compliance data. But since it's all been "over the air", has anyone actually had that experience???
So, there is the guy in the NPR article that went back to his old machine which does not connect to the internet. Instead, he will take his SD card in to verify compliance. Maybe he increased the chances his settings will be changed by someone else?

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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:31 pm

lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:27 pm
Well, she hasn't posted a gif telling me to "get out" yet.
Au contraire mon frère,

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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by lazarus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:33 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:31 pm
lazarus wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:27 pm
Well, she hasn't posted a gif telling me to "get out" yet.
Au contraire mon frère,

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Bully!

I mean the other meaning.
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by Janknitz » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:22 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:14 pm
Janknitz wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm
Back in the day there were tales of DME's and/or clinics resetting via the SD card when people brought them or sent them in manually to show mostly compliance data. But since it's all been "over the air", has anyone actually had that experience???
So, there is the guy in the NPR article that went back to his old machine which does not connect to the internet. Instead, he will take his SD card in to verify compliance. Maybe he increased the chances his settings will be changed by someone else?
Maybe there's more of a possibility that the settings will more likely be changed by the DME then. I don't have any data on it, but I'm wondering if anybody has experienced that?
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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by lazarus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:10 pm

You mean a manufacturer would build in a feature for their primary customers (DMEs) just so it would never be used?

The problematic security issue is giving the people we trust least (DME drones) the ability potentially to sabotage what matters most to us (our breathing and sleeping).

Personally, I think I'd prefer that they just put a cam and mic in my bedroom, instead, like at the sleep studies. I would consider that less intrusive.

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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by palerider » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:20 pm

lynninnj wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:56 pm
Dog Slobber called it clickbait.

Is that your other personality?
I think the appropriate response is "why bless your heart".

I'm nowhere near talented enough to be Mr Slobber.

That said, it's not wrong... it's a stupid article meant to pander to the paranoid, I expected better from NPR.

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Re: WIFI, or remote communication risk potenial.

Post by palerider » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:23 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm
Gawd, people are so afraid of everything these days. I mean everything - not just CPAP.

There's a thing going around on our local media that says a TikTok challenge is to steal a dog and drop it off in a faraway neighborhood. Dog owners by the dozen are quivering in fear or threatening to kill anyone that tries it. Yet, no one can cite a single case of this happening - not a local case and nothing in the national news.
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Because FEAR is a good way to control the masses.

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