Aerophagia

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by lynninnj » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:26 am

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:11 am
lynninnj wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:50 am

Please look over at sleephq.com

I find it takes exactly one minute to upload the data once you set up an account and is easier to share a link to your daily info, where folks can really zoom in and give it a look.

Easy instructions. https://youtu.be/YJojSMC4zQc
Sure looks interesting and legit. I would like to tell fellow on YouTube tutorial to please slow down and drop using "uhs," he heh

Thank you linninni.
I can do it without the uhs.

Set up account.
Open your account and go to the tab on the left that says Data imports.
Drag and drop every file folder from the CPAP SD card in there and click the Begin upload button.

From there you can go over to the dashboard. It takes a few while it uploads and then will allow you to select the date you want to look at. Very easy to zoom in and out etc.

If you follow the bar with the date on it all the way to the right there are three dots. Click there and it says "share" and allows you to create a link to share with the board. Then paste it here.

HTH

Uhhhhmmmm..... :D

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:34 am

Pugsy wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:51 am
ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:22 am

Thanks for the answer Pugsy. Maybe those in control of this forum could delete old image data. I looked for a link to report a problem for CpapTalk without success and that is why I made a separate post in order to get the topic of the post listed for attention as opposed to leaving the off topic question in the other post. Hope that was okay to do that. I have had several requests to post my OSCAR data.

A new question I have is:
I take it with this forum format, I cannot directly reply to replies? In other words, as replies to my topics come in, if I want to reply to questions asked me by the person posting a reply, how do I make sure that person gets my reply? Use the quote reply method? That's a lot of unnecessary text added in some cases. I have been selecting and deleting much of the quoted reply to cut down on its size. I wonder if just having the senders name in the quote, as I did above, will let them know I answered if they have "Notify me when a reply is posted," checked.

Please let me know if there is a special section of this forum where I should post questions on the function of the forum. I have not found a help center yet here and FAQ does not have my questions. Thanks.

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by robysue1 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:47 am

ejbpesca,

Trying SleepHQ may work. If you do use SleepHQ, you can just insert the link to the data over here for people to click on.

But if you want to post data from Oscar, the easiest way is to upload the image file to a place like imgur and then use the BBCode button to create the stuff you need to copy & paste into the cpaptalk edit window to make the image show up in your post.
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by Rubicon » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:54 am

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:17 am
I may be able to get the old Zantac by prescription by a willing doctor though.
Where would you get it filled?
Freeze this moment a little bit longer.
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by robysue1 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:01 am

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:32 am
I went ahead and did a drastic pressure change on my machine. I woke with less aerophagia today. AHI went from 0 to near 5. I had found my pressure min and max was set WAY too high and I wonder if the AUTOSET function of my machine is very accurate.
So the good news is less aerophagia. The bad news is too big of an increase in AHI. Although it's worth asking: What was the CAI? the HI? and the OAI?

Also, to help us help you:
What were the old settings---as in both the maximum and minimum pressure settings and the EPR setting?

What are the new settings---as in both the maximum and minimum pressure settings and the EPR setting?

Because if you lowered both the max and min pressures, you may have lowered them a bit too much. But it's going to take some time to sort out the compromise you are looking for in terms of the pressure settings needed to minimize the aerophagia and the pressure you need to prevent the obstructive events.

As for how accurate the AUTOSET function is:

It's reasonably accurate in detecting (and responding) to breathing patterns that meet its definition of OA, H, and CA. It's lousy at telling when you're actually asleep. As for how the AUTOSET responds to events: The Resmed machines are pretty aggressive in increasing pressure rather rapidly in response to OAs, Hs, snoring, and flow limitations. As soon as the Resmed determines that the bad breathing pattern seems to have stabilized into a nice regular sleep breathing pattern, it starts to gradually reduce the pressure---until the next set of events, snoring, or flow limitations are detected. And then it raises the pressure again. This gives a Resmed Autoset pressure curve it's characteristic "wave" shape where the fronts of the waves are steep and the back sides are much less steep.

With aerophagia, you may also do better with a tighter pressure range than a lot of people use: It could be the pressure increases that are triggering the aerophagia. But it could also simply be that a higher minimum pressure than you need is enough to create the aerophagia problems.

Did you ever use a fixed pressure mode---i.e. straight CPAP instead of Auto? If so, did you have the same problems with aerophagia?
I have never once, in over 10 years of CPAP therapy, have had anyone give any examination to my therapy. There are NO technicians available in my area and the doctors, I have seen, have 0 knowledge of sleep therapy. Each yearly visit, I am asked if I use my machine 4+ hours a night and that's it. The sleep lab people do zero follow-up. I have to get my supplies online via Verus, which does not offer any analysis services nor advice, just sales.
They're doing exactly what they need to be paid by your insurer. And not one bit more.

It's a shame they don't care enough about their patients to learn something that would help people like you actually benefit from seeing them.
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 am

robysue1 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:01 am
ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:32 am


Also, to help us help you:
What were the old settings---as in both the maximum and minimum pressure settingsR and the EPR setting?

What are the new settings---as in both the maximum and minimum pressure settings and the EPR setting?

Robysue1 I am attempting to reply to your reply. I hope replying by the quote method does it. Please bare with me, I'm just now taking sleep analysis into my own hands since no one in my area is available to do it. It is just last week after years of therapy and annual doctor visits, that the doctor's assistant was baffled as to why my cpap gear supplier did not have a therapy report on my usage.

The previous settings were: Min 10 Max 20. They are now Min 4 Max 9. The original non adjusting setting was 8, set over ten years ago that was determined from 4 sleep studies (the overnight in hospital wired up kind) I requested more pressure since I never got the amazing improvement from cpap therapy so often mentioned, so a tech at a clinic maxed out my settings with min 10 max 20...way too much, so I now realize.

I am getting conflicting reports between MyAir and OSCAR.

ResMed's MyAir reports:

AHI = 1.5
AI = 1.4
CAI = .02

OSCAR claimed AHI = 5 of the same night of therapy.

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:53 am

Rubicon wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:54 am
ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:17 am
I may be able to get the old Zantac by prescription by a willing doctor though.
Where would you get it filled?
I do not know where. I am only going by a recently read article about Rentindol (old Zantac) that claimed it may still be available by prescription. It works for me, 5 other acid reducers I've tried, since Rentindol was made unavailable over the counter, do not. I have yet to ask a doctor for a prescription for Rentindol, it may be futile to do so.

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by robysue1 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:09 pm

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 am
The previous settings were: Min 10 Max 20. They are now Min 4 Max 9. The original non adjusting setting was 8, set over ten years ago that was determined from 4 sleep studies (the overnight in hospital wired up kind) I requested more pressure since I never got the amazing improvement from cpap therapy so often mentioned, so a tech at a clinic maxed out my settings with min 10 max 20...way too much, so I now realize.
So how does breathing at 4cm feel?

I always feel fine at that pressure, but a lot of people say "they can't breathe" at 4cm because there's not enough air coming in through the mask. You need to be honest with yourself: If breathing at 4cm is comfortable, then it's ok to leave the min at 4cm at least for a while. But you may need to increase that min up to 6 or 7 in order to properly control your OSA.
I am getting conflicting reports between MyAir and OSCAR.

ResMed's MyAir reports:

AHI = 1.5
AI = 1.4
CAI = .02

OSCAR claimed AHI = 5 of the same night of therapy.
We need to see the data. That's the only way to try to figure out why there might be a difference. But in any event, there should not be that big of a difference.

See if you can upload screen shots of the MyAir data and the OSCAR data to imgur and link to the images inside your post here at cpaptalk.com.


Also, pardon my own ignorance, but I'm not up to date on the newest machines: Does your machine have any on-board data that you view directly from the machine's LCD? Or do you have to go through MyAir?
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:38 pm

Here's a trend report from SleepHQ:

https://sleephq.com/public/c6662674-094 ... 34240e94ed

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:39 pm

This should be a one night dashboard report from SleepHQ:

https://sleephq.com/public/d4940f98-0dd ... 2649e6ebf5

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by robysue1 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:49 pm

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:38 pm
Here's a trend report from SleepHQ:

https://sleephq.com/public/c6662674-094 ... 34240e94ed
We need to see some of the daily data reports from SleepHQ.

It would be great to find one from before you changed the pressure settings and you know you had a great deal of aerophagia. And also post a link to the daily data from last night with the lower settings and less aerophagia.
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by lynninnj » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:49 pm

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:39 pm
This should be a one night dashboard report from SleepHQ:

https://sleephq.com/public/d4940f98-0dd ... 2649e6ebf5
Well done.

Looking at the trends it does seem (after just one night) that the lower pressure *might be helping to minimize leaks, based on my very inexperienced eye.

I found with my own settings at 4, the machine had a long way to go to bring it up when I needed a bit of air and changing my minimum to 7 helped a lot. Your median is just over 6 so you are probably somewhere around there. *

*based on my very inexperienced eye

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by robysue1 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:53 pm

ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 am
I am getting conflicting reports between MyAir and OSCAR.

ResMed's MyAir reports:

AHI = 1.5
AI = 1.4
CAI = .02

OSCAR claimed AHI = 5 of the same night of therapy.
The daily data for Sep. 29 posted at SleepHQ, which is at https://sleephq.com/public/d4940f98-0dd ... 2649e6ebf5, indicates an overnight AHI of 1.58.

Does the daily data in SleepHQ for 9/29 look different than the daily data for 9/29 in OSCAR?
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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:05 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:49 pm
ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:38 pm
Here's a trend report from SleepHQ:

https://sleephq.com/public/c6662674-094 ... 34240e94ed
We need to see some of the daily data reports from SleepHQ.

It would be great to find one from before you changed the pressure settings and you know you had a great deal of aerophagia. And also post a link to the daily data from last night with the lower settings and less aerophagia.
I uploaded a week to SleepHQ but only one day is appearing in the dashboard to share a link.

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Re: Aerophagia

Post by ejbpesca » Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:10 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 12:53 pm
ejbpesca wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 am
I am getting conflicting reports between MyAir and OSCAR.

ResMed's MyAir reports:

AHI = 1.5
AI = 1.4
CAI = .02

OSCAR claimed AHI = 5 of the same night of therapy.
The daily data for Sep. 29 posted at SleepHQ, which is at https://sleephq.com/public/d4940f98-0dd ... 2649e6ebf5, indicates an overnight AHI of 1.58.

Does the daily data in SleepHQ for 9/29 look different than the daily data for 9/29 in OSCAR?
Okay... the AHI = 5 OSCAR report above is wrong. OSCAR/MyAir/SleepHQ all give around AHI = 1.5

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