Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Last night I pulled my BiPAP off of my nightstand in my sleep. - as I woke up I rolled over and dragged the thing off of the counter.
Of course, it dumped water everywhere and I dont know if the machine currently works right etc and am hesitant to use a machine that may be water damaged.
But my question is: what is the best way to stop this happening in the future? clamps? extending the night stand out all the way to the bed? a net? or just hope and pray that this $2500 mistake doesnt become another $2500 mistake.
Of course, it dumped water everywhere and I dont know if the machine currently works right etc and am hesitant to use a machine that may be water damaged.
But my question is: what is the best way to stop this happening in the future? clamps? extending the night stand out all the way to the bed? a net? or just hope and pray that this $2500 mistake doesnt become another $2500 mistake.
Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
These things happen. Even to those of us who have been using our machines for a long time. I've been PAPing for 12 years now. And I pulled the machine off my nightstand the last time about 4 or 5 months ago.
Yes, it's pretty alarming when it happens. Yes, there's a mess to clean up. But the machines themselves are a lot tougher than we give them credit for. Unless this is happening frequently, it's most likely not a serious problem.
As for what to do to minimize the risk of pulling the machine off the table, here are some things to try:
1) Reposition the night table to where there is no gap between it and the bed table---particularly if you pulled the machine off into such a gap.
2) Reposition the night table in the front-to-back orientation if you pulled the machine off the front or back of the table. If you pulled the machine off the back of the table, try to push the table as far back towards the head of the bed as you can. If you pulled the machine off the front of the table, pull the table away from the wall and away from the head of the bed, but keep it next to the bed. How much to pull the table away depends on your bed, your sleep habits, and where the hose is coming out of the machine. Try adjusting in 6in increments. When I've pulled my machine off, it always comes off the front of the table. So I've got 12-16 inches of space behind the back of the table and wall that the head of the bed is on. I need that because my table is small and I tend to sleep curled up fairly far down in the bed. (I'm a 5'1" shrimp who likes to sleep curled up in a ball with the covers over my head.)
3) Position the machine in the middle of the table or on the opposite side of the table so that you have to pull the machine much farther before it reaches the edge of the table.
4) Reposition the machine's orientation on the table so the hose is coming out of the machine directly towards you and the bed. This is particularly important when using Resmed machines where the hose comes directly out the back of the machine. As inconvenient as it is, you may be better off having the Resmed's front face away from you so the hose is coming out directly at you.
5) Use a hose management system to hang the hose. This minimizes the chances of you getting tangled up in the hose and then pulling the machine off as you try to turn over in bed. Inevitably, on the rare occasions when I've pulled my own BiPAP off the table, it's been because I or my bed pillows have gotten tangled up in the hose and the machine went over the edge as I tried to turn over.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
If your nightstand has a drawer, put the CPAP in there.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
After pulling mine off one night I bought a rubber mat (like used under dog bowls) to put under it. I also have a command hook to attach my hose to, to reduce some of the pulling on the machine.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
If you can find one, place your machine on a thick, heavy mousepad.
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Use a quick connector between the hose and machine - https://www.directhomemedical.com/cart/ ... ode=DHM&gc
The hose will tend to pull loose from the machine before pulling it onto the floor.
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Use a quick connector between the hose and machine - https://www.directhomemedical.com/cart/ ... ode=DHM&gc
The hose will tend to pull loose from the machine before pulling it onto the floor.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
You could put a fleecy cover on your long hose and then safety-pin it to your bottom sheet (if the sheet is fitted).
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
First Do NOT power on that bipap until you are certain that it is bone dry inside. I've heard that putting it in a plastic bag with rice is helpful - I've never had to try this.
Besides all the fine suggestions above you could try securing the hose to the wall or bedpost, etc. as a stress point.
The drawer thing I use at a hotel and also works well.
But check and double check for moisture inside before applying power, hopefully you already have it unplugged?
Besides all the fine suggestions above you could try securing the hose to the wall or bedpost, etc. as a stress point.
The drawer thing I use at a hotel and also works well.
But check and double check for moisture inside before applying power, hopefully you already have it unplugged?
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Last time a student of mine quoted Wikipedia on a paper, they got a tough reminder of why we have a peer review process when they did not get credit for it.
Putting rice into a bag, placing the device in it and sealing it can help remove the moisture from electronics, but it has issues as well. If you do try it leave it for at least a full day or two. The bigger concern is corrosion of components that got wet, but as I have not taken apart a CPAP I do not know if the electronics are uncovered, there are others who may chime in who have done so.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
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SleepGeek wrote:zonker AND pr only post comments about comments often misleading, timewasting stuff.
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If only they could stay ON Topic or OFF the internet that would also feel like a trifecta.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
The reason is people like zonkers and prs are allowed to post misleading, timewasting stuff in Wikipedia too.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Sure, here's another one, maybe you'll find this more compelling:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPeITOz2_YM
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Alternatively, and I know you're incapable of things like this, but in the last seven years, I've learned more things.
Thanks for pointing out those older errors, I've fixed the incorrect posts.
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Re: Pulled BiPap Off Of counter - how to stop this
Plenty of scientific research on the S-shaped water absorption curve and structural properties of various kinds of rice. Generally speaking, as long as the moisture content of the enclosed space is greater than the rice itself, it will absorb moisture.
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