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Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm
by Rubicon
lazarus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:26 pm
There are well-meaning studies that bring up the question from time to time...
Seems to me we had discussions about OSA and elderly with stuff from Lavie and SHHS. Lavie was the guy who said if you can make it to 50 you're in pretty good shape (in re: dropping dead. Or not).
https://err.ersjournals.com/content/16/106/203
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:08 pm
by lazarus
Rubicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm
Lavie was the guy who said if you can make it to 50 you're in pretty good shape
I believe that one glance at me proves that wrong.
I'm trying not to drop dead, tho.
I personally will not pressure anyone over 100 to try PAP.
There may be a modicum of merit in the whole 'he can better survive an event if he's good at hypoxia' thing, but quality of life matters just as much in the very elderly as purely medical mortality numbers, as far as my personal philosophy.
My DPA says nothing extraordinary for extending my life. I've had a good run. Enjoying it for now, though. So no DNR.
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:12 pm
by Rubicon
lazarus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:08 pm
Rubicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm
Lavie was the guy who said if you can make it to 50 you're in pretty good shape
I believe that one glance at me proves that wrong.
Are you above ground now?
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:13 pm
by chunkyfrog
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:18 pm
by lazarus
Rubicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:12 pm
lazarus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:08 pm
Rubicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm
Lavie was the guy who said if you can make it to 50 you're in pretty good shape
I believe that one glance at me proves that wrong.
Are you above ground now?
Above the water but never quite out of the woods.
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:21 pm
by lazarus
Good
subject, either way. May have got the answer he wanted at another
forum?
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:06 pm
by lazarus
Rubicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm
lazarus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:26 pm
There are well-meaning studies that bring up the question from time to time...
Seems to me we had discussions about OSA and elderly with stuff from Lavie and SHHS. Lavie was the guy who said if you can make it to 50 you're in pretty good shape (in re: dropping dead. Or not).
https://err.ersjournals.com/content/16/106/203
I do remember the time Rooster/Roster's crazily-titled thread (which o. called him out on) motivated one guy to buy his mother-in-law a CPAP . . .
viewtopic/t34787/Want-to-live-longer-Di ... P-Use.html
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:04 pm
by zonker
lazarus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:42 am
zonker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:21 am
. . . out of their way to paint a negative . . .
Maybe.
you always make me think. damn you, er i mean, thank you!
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:21 pm
by lazarus
zonker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:04 pm
you always make me think. damn you, er i mean, thank you!
I find that it's usually the quickest and easiest way to make people angry.
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:35 pm
by SleepGeek
lazarus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:21 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:04 pm
you always make me think. damn you, er i mean, thank you!
I find that it's usually the quickest and easiest way to make people angry.
Distilled water or "Sticky Topic" also seem to work.
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:06 pm
by zonker
no he came back today at around 1:30 or so.
just didn't have more to say, i guess.
(of course, i blame lazarus.)
Re: Effectiveness of Cpap for healthy senior over80
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:15 pm
by lazarus
zonker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:06 pm
(of course, i blame lazarus.)
I'll take it. I wear the badge of
forum scapegoat proudly.
But I hope he found the answers he was looking for.