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Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:50 pm
by lynninnj
I just did this myself but can’t see how to fix it.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:11 pm
by Oday03274
lynninnj wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:47 pm
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:52 pm
lynninnj wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Getting some freaky visuals here.
I am marginally funny looking
lol ok I will take your word for it.
FYI I am guessing you are having slight technical issues here. When you quote, be sure to scroll down to the bottom and drop th cursor below the last bracket-slash -quote- bracket. (if i don’t type that out the board may confuse it with a command.)
Otherwise your quote above reads as one giant quote from me with none for you.
HTH
Yeah, I deleted the rest of the message and accidentally removed the close quote part...won't happen again...probably...maybe...I'll try
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm
by Brad S
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:47 pm
I must have a really long neck, a two inch looks like a shirt collar for me. As I think I mentioned, I so far have not had good results with the normal cervical collar "belt" type, they just aren't thick enough to keep my giant head from rolling forward, I also have a pretty significant chin so a wide platform seems to work really well. Getting it tight enough so your chin can't slip behind while still being loose enough to not cut off blood flow seems to be a fine line as well. In addition to my chin I also have a pretty large Adams apple. When I modified my travel pillow for this use I cut out foam on the sides for blood flow and on the inside of the flat part that I put in front to allow space so I can swallow. It may be that I just end up using my Frankenstinian invention rather than something I buy, who knows.
Love the visual... Finally something made me smile today. Your creation maybe the ticket! Get that design dialed in and I bet you could sell them here. I would buy one for sure!
I got what I paid for with the Chy-com 2" collar. It is a small 2" and about 1/3 as thick as the medical supply store brand. I was desperate and didn't want to drive 35 minutes to town. It is hard and stiff and very short. The 3" one is stuffed full and soft. DOH!
I have wide shoulders and a short (ish) thick neck. I may go to the medical supply store and get the 2-1/2 collar and combine that with the pillow.
I think I will try to find the pillow you describe and give that a try. I am quickly becoming a zombie. Need. Sleep.
Thanks for sharing your story. Have a great night.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:25 am
by ChicagoGranny
lynninnj wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Getting some freaky visuals here.
I'll say.
Brad S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm
It is hard and stiff and very short.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:53 am
by Brad S
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:25 am
lynninnj wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Getting some freaky visuals here.
I'll say.
Brad S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm
It is hard and stiff and very short.
It is a small 2" and about 1/3 as thick
I've been caught! It is stiff though. At least I got that going for me.
Love it!
Thanks for the laugh. Happy Friday.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:06 am
by lynninnj
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:25 am
lynninnj wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Getting some freaky visuals here.
I'll say.
Brad S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm
It is hard and stiff and very short.
ROFLMAO
you naughty girl!
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:01 am
by Oday03274
Brad S wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:47 pm
I must have a really long neck, a two inch looks like a shirt collar for me. As I think I mentioned, I so far have not had good results with the normal cervical collar "belt" type, they just aren't thick enough to keep my giant head from rolling forward, I also have a pretty significant chin so a wide platform seems to work really well. Getting it tight enough so your chin can't slip behind while still being loose enough to not cut off blood flow seems to be a fine line as well. In addition to my chin I also have a pretty large Adams apple. When I modified my travel pillow for this use I cut out foam on the sides for blood flow and on the inside of the flat part that I put in front to allow space so I can swallow. It may be that I just end up using my Frankenstinian invention rather than something I buy, who knows.
Love the visual... Finally something made me smile today. Your creation maybe the ticket! Get that design dialed in and I bet you could sell them here. I would buy one for sure!
I got what I paid for with the Chy-com 2" collar. It is a small 2" and about 1/3 as thick as the medical supply store brand. I was desperate and didn't want to drive 35 minutes to town. It is hard and stiff and very short. The 3" one is stuffed full and soft. DOH!
I have wide shoulders and a short (ish) thick neck. I may go to the medical supply store and get the 2-1/2 collar and combine that with the pillow.
I think I will try to find the pillow you describe and give that a try. I am quickly becoming a zombie. Need. Sleep.
Thanks for sharing your story. Have a great night.
Ok, so I have now tried 5 purchased options and all of them suck eggs. I finally got one that was tall enough to keep my chin up but then it was very stiff and too tall on the back and sides making it very uncomfortable. The Futuro brand 5" lies like a guy on an internet dating site...take the height stated and subtract 2 inches... I also tried " The Eliminator" sleep cushion which apparently is made and modeled by elves, it can basically fit in my hand. It is well made though and might work well for a small person with the short neck. So I am back to my modified travel pillow, in addition to the mods already mentioned I stuffed some extra foam in various places to make it a little taller and more supportive at the chin, which of course blew the seams out so I had reinforce the stitching, thank goodness for home economics back in middle school eh?
Bottom line is, for me at least, the basic cervical collar isn't ideal, the best of that bunch turned out to be a super generic 3" as while it was not quite tall enough it was at least soft so it gave some advantage.
Makes me wonder of those research papers I found that showed little or no improvement in sleep apnea using a cervical collar just had really crappy, insufficient to the task product.
IF anyone is looking for a solution in the cervical collar sphere I would recommend getting a firm travel pillow instead and just add some straps for a secure fit, it does the job and is much more comfortable for sleeping (if a bit bulky)
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:59 am
by Brad S
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:01 am
Ok, so I have now tried 5 purchased options and all of them suck eggs.
Makes me wonder of those research papers I found that showed little or no improvement in sleep apnea using a cervical collar just had really crappy, insufficient to the task product.
IF anyone is looking for a solution in the cervical collar sphere I would recommend getting a firm travel pillow instead
I am still using the 2" collar every night. I do believe it is helping but it is not perfect. I think it helps to keep my airway open and I am still searching for other options. I may try buying a better quality 2" and 2.5" collar.
If it works out later, I may be going in to town. If I do I am going to try to find travel pillow and start building my Frankenstein.
I think the research papers are interesting. How can they do a study on a group of people and determine the outcome for the rest of us? We are all different. As I am learning, there are thigs that help. It takes time and plenty of patience. How long did these studies last? How many different supplies were available to try? I don't put much faith in studies or reviews. I read them and try what I think anyway. If it wasn't for this thread, I would not have thought about a travel pillow. Thank you for sharing.
All I know is I want to sleep- This is all worth it- even if it doesn't work, at least we have tried.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:29 am
by ChicagoGranny
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:01 am
IF anyone is looking for a solution in the cervical collar sphere I would recommend getting a firm travel pillow instead and just add some straps for a secure fit, it does the job and is much more comfortable for sleeping (if a bit bulky)
From the many anecdotes posted here over the years, most people do well with a cheap, generic, foam cervical collar. It may take some experimenting to find the right width. I always recommend starting with 3.5-inch width or 3.0-inch width if you are small. (I'm small and actually use a 4.0-inch width.)
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:29 pm
by GrumpyHere
Oday03274 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:47 pm
It may be that I just end up using my Frankenstinian invention
Brad S wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:59 am
start building my Frankenstein.
You might want to consider Kiralynx's "brandy keg" Frankenstein.
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Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:11 am
by CPAPQs4All
Which travel pillow did you use and modify?
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:25 pm
by Oday03274
CPAPQs4All wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:11 am
Which travel pillow did you use and modify?
It has no tag on it so I'm not sure, its memory foam type so it has a pretty stable form and is fairly tall, the cover is removable with a zipper making it easy to add or subtract foam as needed
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:46 pm
by lynninnj
This is brilliant!
I didn’t quite get the picture til she said st. bernard. I don’t know what wicking material she meant but i imagine it’s acting like a pillow case.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:26 pm
by GrumpyHere
lynninnj wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:46 pm
don’t know what wicking material she meant
https://www.google.com/search?q=wicking+fabric
A moisture-wicking fabric has two jobs: one is quickly moving (or wicking) sweat to the fabric's outer surface, and the other is drying rapidly so that your sweat doesn't saturate the fabric.
Re: Try a cervical collar/chin pillow...WOW
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:00 am
by lynninnj
GrumpyHere wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:26 pm
lynninnj wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:46 pm
don’t know what wicking material she meant
https://www.google.com/search?q=wicking+fabric
A moisture-wicking fabric has two jobs: one is quickly moving (or wicking) sweat to the fabric's outer surface, and the other is drying rapidly so that your sweat doesn't saturate the fabric.
gotcha thanks
