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Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:24 pm
by KENSKIP1
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:55 pm
Cancer tends to aggravate depression.
Your posts indicate this rather strongly.
If you can get help, do so at the earliest opportunity.
First off I am sorry about the quote "Lighten Up Francis"
Yes it does lead to depression, anxiety, rapid pulse
shortness of breath chest pane heart palpations.
Cancer took my father and I am worried about my future.
I have seen (via computer monitors) a few however,
all they want to do is make me take drugs. I do not
take any medication. I do not smoke, drink. However I exercise
2-3 times a week at a local fitness center. Occasionally I have
been known to dredged up archaic curses from the distant past,
combined them with current profanity and worked in a half dozen crude
anatomical references, embellished those with all the known
vulgarities related to bodily functions and finally wove
all these elements into a woven tapestry brilliant in color and blinding in
intensity when dealing with malfunctioning equipment.
I used to be the life of the party. Thank you for showing your concern, Ken
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:57 pm
by chunkyfrog
Cancer is much too common not to regard the impact on each of us.
I lost my youngest brother to colon cancer--(he was only 52)
(Now I get roto-rootered every 5 years instead of 10.)
I have survived breast cancer and classic Hodgkin's lymphoma.
At 75 years, I know something will get me--but if I see it coming, I will fight it.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:31 pm
by Okie bipap
Benefits of using a CPAP machine do not always show up right away. My changes were gradual over a period of two or three months. I never really noticed any great change, but one morning it dawned on me that I could sit at the table and work the crossword puzzle in the paper and read the rest of the paper and not fall asleep while doing it. I could also sit and watch a movie on the TV without falling asleep. I have now been on my machine for a little over seven years, and my wife has had hers for a little over five years.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 pm
by chunkyfrog
Three months in, I was shocked to find I was able to run two blocks;
when previously I was winded after a quarter block.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:44 am
by Rubicon
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:48 am
I checked my pulse ox level several times. 85-90 was average. Yes this is low.
Based on your other comments re: PFT, echo, and stress test that's beyond contradictory and more like impossible.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:59 am
by Miss Emerita
Kenskip1, you might want to get a recording oximeter, ideally one that is compatible with Oscar. You'll see more information by clicking on Oximetry Wizard on the Oscar "welcome" page. That will give you a much clearer picture than the occasional reading.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:47 pm
by KENSKIP1
Here's a picture of last nights sleep pressure. It is slowly making a free fall. Any information on this event?

- Pressure settings?
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Thank you both for your concern. However during the sleep study (first part) I was awoken buy the person doing the monitoring the first part of the study because my pulse/ox was very low. I later found out that it had dropped down to 71%. I have both DVD showing the records and am now in the process of attempting to be able to show the data. During the second part of the study again I was awoken because my pulse/ox was nearing the boarder line limits. They mentioned something about 3 minutes being critical however, I recovered on my own.
I am not very PC savvy. This could take a while. I will investigate the devise mentioned shortly. Thanks for showing your concern, Ken
The device I have is not the top shelf variety. On the DVD, I was viewing the pulse/ox from the sleep study was between 95% and 91% while sleeping. Right now using it pulse was 88 bpm 93% on the pulse/ox
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:17 pm
by Julie
O2 sats are considered not to be very problematic if they stay above 88, or only drop at odd moments below that, so I think you might also want to look at other things besides it for answers.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:04 pm
by ozij
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:48 am
I was under the impression that I could be free of Apnea and get along with my life.
Wrong impression. "Apnea" means a temporary cessation of breathing. Sleep Apnea means means your breathing stops temporarily while you're asleep and your brain
wakes you up to ensure you breathe properly.
Continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) is a way of ensuring your airway is stably open, letting air enter and leave your lungs so your oxygen starved brain has no need to wake you up.
You need something to keep your airway open at certain positions or during some stages of sleep. Your body is not managing to do on its own. It's another reminder of the many aspects of life we cannot control.
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:48 am
So it appears as if this device is being used as a crutch.
What's wrong with using a crutch?
Some people can't walk at all without using a crutch.
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:48 am
I will not allow this to continue.
Which more or less equivalent to announcing that you will not let gravity make things fall... it is an understanding of gravity (an a few other things in nature) that has made human being capable of flight, not rage against it.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:48 pm
by KENSKIP1
WOW Talk about getting an education. Some of your replies are murder. Yes I am learning or still in the minor leagues. However, "You Are never To Old To Learn Something New" Thanks for taking the time to "Splane" them. Ken. H.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:10 am
by Rubicon
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:47 pm
Thanks for showing your concern...
I wouldn't call it "concern"-- more like "interest", or maybe "curiosity" to discover some answers.
Besides your waking O2 saturation not making any sense, for that matter your sleep study O2 saturation doesn't make any sense either. There's the "Omigod a desat to 71%!" yet
The patient spent 0.1 minutes of sleep time with saturations of 88% or less.
or 6 seconds-- far less than the minimum time for a desaturating hypopnea event. Artifact?
Only 27 hypopneas and a BiPAP?
BiPAP pressures drop to -0- by the end of the night? Can't tell anything by that snippet, whether it's a machine malfunction or a software malfunction. Load the card contents to dropbox. Post the graphics of the sleep study here.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:34 pm
by kteague
KENSKIP1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:24 pm
Occasionally I have been known to dredged up archaic curses from the distant past,
combined them with current profanity and worked in a half dozen crude
anatomical references, embellished those with all the known
vulgarities related to bodily functions and finally wove
all these elements into a woven tapestry brilliant in color and blinding in
intensity when dealing with malfunctioning equipment.
I
Relatable. Are you a writer for Stephen Colbert? lol That reminded me of the intro to his "Meanwhile" segment. Sleep will do your mood good. My language has not improved but my resemblance to your description is much less often. - Kathy, just blowing my image all over the place.
Re: Sleep Apnea Short term? Constructive recommendations only
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:53 pm
by KENSKIP1
A righter? WOW, I'm not used to high caliber complements of this magnitude. Not really although I have dabbled in the righting while in
my youth while loitering in collage. No this little gem was sent to me years ago from a very good friend. I believe the author was "Patrick McManus". He like my friend is now gone however I still enjoy reading his work. Thanks for the complement. Ken
BTW, Geese honk but they don't wave, pigs squeal but they never tell. These are quotes also from the late great "Patrick McManus" If you or someone you know is an outdoor enthusiast, Mr. McManus has several wonderful books A few of them are banned from hospitals as the person reading them will have fits of uncontrolled laughter. They shoot Canoes Don't They, Never Sniff A gift Fish, A fine And Pleasant Misery are just a few of this wonderful mans works. He was a collage professor in English in Washington state.
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sp ... d=16595467
https://youtu.be/RcxTre66z9w