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Grouchy Bear wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:31 pm

So, could comparing belt movement with a previous breath and finding about the same movement, but no/very little flow through the nasal cannula could indicate either mouth breathing or an apnea? I think it gets complicated in that case, but one might be able to discern which is actually happening, with the detailed test results and graphs available to study.

Yes, that's seems reasonable to infer, particularly if the first belt expansion had a simultaneous recorded flow but the on the second expansion there was no recorded flow at the nostrils. But the algorithm to do that "look back" would be complicated, and probably not cost-effective.

I'd be really be surprised that the HSAT employed RIP belts (way too expensive and overly complicated data processing), more likely a strain-gage sensor built into the belt that measure changes in the length of the belt, or a piezoelectric transducer.

Lastly I agree with @Rubicon, the OP is likely misremembering, there is only one belt on the Resmed HSAT.

One thing that I would expect that the HSAT belt should be very good at is observing Central Apneas (because the chest is not being commanded to expand at all)

The concluding episode of this thread can be found at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917.
Sanjay's doctor has ordered another sleep study be cause his oral breathing was not measured in the original study.

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:54 pm

The concluding episode of this thread can be found at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917.
Sanjay's doctor has ordered another sleep study be cause his oral breathing was not measured in the original study.

Could you quote that from the post, because thats not what he posted.

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:36 pm

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:54 pm

The concluding episode of this thread can be found at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917.
Sanjay's doctor has ordered another sleep study be cause his oral breathing was not measured in the original study.

Could you quote that from the post, because thats not what he posted.

but it's what dataq1 read.

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:21 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:36 pm

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:54 pm

The concluding episode of this thread can be found at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917.
Sanjay's doctor has ordered another sleep study be cause his oral breathing was not measured in the original study.

Could you quote that from the post, because thats not what he posted.

but it's what dataq1 read.

Is there an alternate way of describing in a few words what Sanjay posted at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917?
In any event, it would appear that he got resolution to his issue.

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:49 am

Is there an alternate way of describing in a few words what Sanjay posted at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917?
In any event, it would appear that he got resolution to his issue.

i should think that if someone said something in another thread, one would want to quote the thread rather than paraphrasing.

also, not directed to you but to members new to the forum, this is yet another reason why a person new to the forum should stick to one thread. it cuts down on confusion and helps us old timers keep track of what is what.

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:49 am

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:21 pm

Dog Slobber wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:36 pm

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:54 pm

The concluding episode of this thread can be found at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917.
Sanjay's doctor has ordered another sleep study be cause his oral breathing was not measured in the original study.

Could you quote that from the post, because thats not what he posted.

but it's what dataq1 read.

Is there an alternate way of describing in a few words what Sanjay posted at viewtopic.php?f=1&t=184526&p=1413923#p1413917?
In any event, it would appear that he got resolution to his issue.

Yes, and there also is an honest way.

Your paraphrase was dishonest.

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:49 am

Is there an alternate way of describing in a few words what Sanjay posted?

by Sanjay1976 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:55 pm

Hello all,
I share an office visit. I was breathing through my mouth. So I spoke. I could have a thing (strap?)

He was very kind and said that they would charge insurance for the second sleep study.

I am happy.

help

Sanjay

How is that for alternate way of describing in a few words what Sanjay posted.

Is it honest? Well, just about as honest as your "paraphrase".

JPB

First I don't understand why y'all are making such a fuss about honesty.

Second: Jimbud, you failed to include:

"they would NOT charge insurance ....because it was THEIR fault"

Rather important to include that.

I interpret the "their fault" as an acknowledgment that "they" did not account for his oral breathing.

Anyone who wants to can read his actual post and draw their own interpretation.

Now can we get off the "Dataq1-bashing soap box"

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:16 pm

Second: Jimbud, you failed to include:

"they would NOT charge insurance ....because it was THEIR fault"

Rather important to include that.

I interpret the "their fault" as an acknowledgment that "they" did not account for his oral breathing.

Anyone who wants to can read his actual post and draw their own interpretation.

My interpretation is that without seeing the data, it has not been decided that if, in fact, there is any fault that needs to be assigned.

Hence, both studies should be examed.

Rubicon wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:45 pm

... it has not been decided that if, in fact, there is any fault that needs to be assigned.

And yet, the provider has already accepted responsibility for a "fault", even without comparative data. (if Sanjay's narrative is accurate).

But you are entitled to your interpretation.

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:48 pm

But you are entitled to your interpretation.

I've read both threads. You are pushing an agenda and making assumptions that support it.

Very easy to make an accusation without any specificity. Please enlighten . What agenda and what assumptions?

Better yet, send me a PM, Because your post has nothing to do with the topic

dataq1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:16 pm

First I don't understand why y'all are making such a fuss about honesty.

That is the attitude pointing out why you are what you are.

And why the responsible people on here have to watch what you say, so honesty/truth will prevail.

You are like a snotty, out of control, self absorbed, know it all fifteen year old.

JPB

jimbud wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:16 pm

And why the responsible people on here have to watch what you say, so honesty/truth will prevail.
JPB

specificity,
If you make accusations without any, it makes YOU sound like the….. well …..what you are suggesting .