Low AHI feels worse

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 1:32 pm

Haha!

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Hang Fire » Wed May 11, 2022 1:34 pm

Okaythen wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 1:27 pm
Always when I’m more relaxed via interventions that calm the CNS.
More missing information. What are those interventions?

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by lazarus » Wed May 11, 2022 1:43 pm

Hang Fire wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 1:31 pm
lazarus wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 1:22 pm
I suggest not checking AHI until the end of day to make sure expectations aren't inadvertently coloring the perceived correlation.
Wouldn't it be the other way around? You see a higher AHI which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for "feeling worse"? Strange duck who sees a lower AHI and says, "Oh no, I'm going to have a bad day."
Hey, who you calling a strange duck, pal?! :D

Some, not all, but a few, see a zero and think 'then why don't I feel better?' and then later see a five and think 'hey, but I feel great!' That can lead to the perception that high numbers feel better and low numbers feel worse. But yeah, as you say, others (perhaps most daily peekers) see a zero and think 'YES, that means I am about to have a perfect day! Weeeeee!'

It is all subjective anyway, based on unfounded expectations, so anything a troubleshooter can do to downplay one night's data or play around with timing of comparisons may help. Or not.
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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 1:59 pm

Hang Fire, I can guarantee you that you will still not figure it out. Things like Reiki, ESMR video before bed, deep meditation, trialing medications that act on damping down the CNS response, etc.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Dog Slobber » Wed May 11, 2022 2:20 pm

Do not look at your AHI, then make a note in your journal how you feel you slept and how you felt during the day.

*Then* write down the AHI.

Humans are pattern seekers, but sometimes we see (or even create) patterns that are not there.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Miss Emerita » Wed May 11, 2022 2:44 pm

Lots of good comments in the thread. My AHI is just about always under 2 and usually under 1. Most of my events are central apneas, and in many cases a higher AHI just means that a couple of times I paused between breaths for 11 seconds rather than 9.

All that said, my worst days are after the nights when I'm awake the longest, and when I'm awake, I don't have events. For me, this doesn't translate into a clear pattern like the one the OP is asking about, but maybe it does for the OP.
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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 2:48 pm

Thanks for your input, Miss Emerita. No clear pattern regarding events for me either.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed May 11, 2022 2:53 pm

Okaythen wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:48 pm
No clear pattern regarding events for me either.
No clear pattern!!?? Is this a joke on forum members who are trying to be helpful? You said there was a pattern of low AHI = feels worse.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 2:56 pm

Haha. I misread hers. No clear pattern regarding type of breathing events when AHI is under 1.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Hang Fire » Wed May 11, 2022 2:59 pm

Waste of time.

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 3:19 pm

Hang Fire wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 2:59 pm
Waste of time.
What is, life?

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Julie » Wed May 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Life - we mostly fumble our way thru and hopefully with more good days than bad, and maybe that's as good as it gets - I spend more time worrying about animals (in nature not on your bed) with no vets or meds or anything... we're the lucky ones!

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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 5:02 pm

Julie wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 4:59 pm
Life - we mostly fumble our way thru and hopefully with more good days than bad, and maybe that's as good as it gets - I spend more time worrying about animals (in nature not on your bed) with no vets or meds or anything... we're the lucky ones!
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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by zonker » Wed May 11, 2022 5:12 pm

Hang Fire wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 1:25 pm
Okaythen wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 8:48 am
When on CPAP, why would a low AHI—e.g. under 1—make one feel more tired and worse in the morning than a higher AHI—e.g. 2 or 3? This has been my experience.
You left out a key piece of information. What is the breakdown of those AHIs - clear airway/obstructive/hypopnea?
my god, has it been six months already?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

was just thinking that it was getting time for you to post.
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Re: Low AHI feels worse

Post by Okaythen » Wed May 11, 2022 5:52 pm

Thanks, Zonk Man. I don’t know who’s crazier, me for posting or you for responding.

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