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Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:21 pm
by ChrisD
palerider wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 7:51 pm
Respironics and Resmed calculate the leak rates *totally* differently, there's no comparison.
However, your leaks with the new mask are higher than the machine likes. Why don't you try your old mask?
Needs do change over time. However, they will
never change in such a way that leaving the machine at the default setting is appropriate.
Good to know.
I'll try the old mask if I can't get the #'s to come down or get the new mask adjusted. I'm up against a wall with the old mask. I need to change as some parts (gel pad) of the old TrueBlue mask are NLA on the primary and secondary markets.
I agree. I set it to close to the original prescription so I could sleep and get used to the new machine and mask. If further tweaks are needed then I'll work on it incrementally. I just didn't want to change too much at once.
Thanks,
Chris
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:25 pm
by Tec5
Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:51 pm
I'm guessing you're too much of an ignorant, argumentative fuck, to even understand how rude you are.
Classy
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 1:30 pm
by ChrisD
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:15 pm
I would FIRE any doctor insisting my cpap be left at factory defaults.
His JOB is helping me find an effective range for TREATMENT;
Factory defaults exist for some reason or other,
but I doubt they are appropriate for ANYONE but a very few.
I'll find out more tomorrow afternoon at a follow-up appt.
Thanks,
Chris
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 3:04 pm
by SJ-Paddler
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:15 pm
I would FIRE any doctor insisting my cpap be left at factory defaults.
His JOB is helping me find an effective range for TREATMENT;
not promoting my failure at using cpap.
You know my prescribing doctor was / is an ENT. He prescribed factory defaults. I was in for unrelated GERD and asked for a sleep study and he was happy to prescribe one per my request. I just went back from my insurance mandated follow up interview. Told him I adjusted settings to something that is working for me, he said "Good for you, glad it is working". I probably would not have done that except for learning here and on my own. But then again he was not a "Sleep Doctor". Still you would think SOMEONE in the medical system would follow up and make sure I was doing okay and stuff was working.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 3:44 pm
by zonker
Tec5 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:25 pm
Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:51 pm
I'm guessing you're too much of an ignorant, argumentative <bleep>, to even understand how rude you are.
Classy
pls note that dogslobber changed edited his post to remove that offensive word BEFORE you quoted it, so i'm not sure how it came up in your quote.
(not taking a shot, just curious.)
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 4:50 pm
by chunkyfrog
FYI: tec5 only joined the forum on 3/28/2022.
Some of us can already figure out why . . .
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:04 pm
by palerider
ChrisD wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:21 pm
I'll try the old mask if I can't get the #'s to come down or get the new mask adjusted. I'm up against a wall with the old mask. I need to change as some parts (gel pad) of the old TrueBlue mask are NLA on the primary and secondary markets.
Have you tried ebay?
ChrisD wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:21 pm
I agree. I set it to close to the original prescription so I could sleep and get used to the new machine and mask. If further tweaks are needed then I'll work on it incrementally. I just didn't want to change too much at once.
That's wise
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:05 pm
by palerider
Tec5 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:08 am
Scenerio:
ChrisD: "Doc, Palerider says that your prescription / recommendation of 4-20 is stupid and that I should be wary of you"
Doc: "Why is it "stupid""
ChrisD: "I don't know"
Doc" "WTF"
So why is it a stupid ?
The person I was responding to was able to understand my comment,
It's not necessary for YOU to understand it, not that it appears you want to, given how I've
already explained it.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:07 pm
by palerider
Tec5 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:25 pm
Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:51 pm
I'm guessing you're too much of an ignorant, argumentative fuck, to even understand how rude you are.
Classy
And accurate.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:09 pm
by palerider
Pugsy wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:31 am
Long, thoughtful detailed response to a twit.
I might have missed it in what you said, but another aspect of setting the min
pressure too low is that the machine spends the whole night trying to get back to that min
pressure, thus causing repeated cycles of
pressure too low, bad sleep, increases in
pressure.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 6:27 pm
by Pugsy
palerider wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 5:09 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:31 am
Long, thoughtful detailed response to a twit.
I might have missed it in what you said, but another aspect of setting the min
pressure too low is that the machine spends the whole night trying to get back to that min
pressure, thus causing repeated cycles of
pressure too low, bad sleep, increases in
pressure.
You didn't miss it. I didn't go into that part.
But....from what I have seen I don't think it matters much.
I guess I "perceive" things differently and all those journals and papers that I did take the time to read are all wrong.
Not to mention nearly 13 years on auto adjusting pressures of some sort.
When I get essentially told to go pound sand...That's pretty much what I will do but I will remember and save myself some typing the next time.
The F list just grew again. Thankfully will save me some reading as well as responding. Won't be wasting my time again.
I am a quick study.
But maybe someone else will learn something from what I wrote since it was essentially for everyone and not one person anyway.
I am off to make a new voodoo doll. I can sure see it being needed.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 6:57 pm
by zonker
Pugsy wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 6:27 pm
But maybe someone else will learn something from what I wrote since it was essentially for everyone and not one person anyway.
and it can't be stressed enough. even if a user is just lurking and reading stuff, they can learn things. i've learned more from watching discussions on the forum than from actual questions. i might not need the info NOW, but i will prolly need it someday.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 7:33 pm
by Tec5
zonker wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:44 pm
Tec5 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:25 pm
Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:51 pm
I'm guessing you're too much of an ignorant, argumentative <bleep>, to even understand how rude you are.
Classy
pls note that dogslobber changed edited his post to remove that offensive word BEFORE you quoted it, so i'm not sure how it came up in your quote.
(not taking a shot, just curious.)
Hit the quote button on his post at 2:52, added reply, walked away to cool off, then posted reply at 3:21.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 8:49 pm
by zonker
Tec5 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:33 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:44 pm
Hit the quote button on his post at 2:52, added reply, walked away to cool off, then posted reply at 3:21.
oh, okay. that explains it.
Re: Switched from PR System1 to ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 9:05 pm
by Tec5
Pugsy wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 6:27 pm
When I get essentially told to go pound sand...
This is being blown up WAY out of proportion and somehow being regarded as a personal attack on you.
Please review my post at 2:18 pm, I asked if there was any data that quantifies a delay between the onset of a flow limitation and the machine beginning to increase
pressure.
That is a perfectly reasonable question that relates to the notion that the machine is just "twiddling it's little thumbs".
Science question not a "go pound sand" reaction.
2nd Question, related to the first, was if there is a measurable delay, does the delay time relate to the current
pressure. (In other words, is the response time to a flow limitation dependent on whether the current
pressure is 4 cm or 10 cm).
Again a technical question, not a gotcha question.