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Re: After first year's results

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:15 pm
by zonker
lazarus wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:12 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:59 am
Washout, my ass.
Um. No thanks?
punctuation can be critical.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:20 pm
by lazarus
zonker wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:15 pm
lazarus wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:12 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:59 am
Washout, my ass.
Um. No thanks?
punctuation can be critical.
Or at least require intensive care.

I'll pay more attention to the comma (glad it wasn't a colon) next time. Thanks for granny-grammar-splainin'.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:31 pm
by Pugsy
Would it be too much to ask for you guys and gals to get back on topic???
Thank you.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:45 pm
by lazarus
Yes, ma'am. Sorry.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:25 pm
by zonker
Pugsy wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:31 pm
Would it be too much to ask for you guys and gals to get back on topic???
Thank you.
not at all.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:45 am
by dataq1
kvck wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:04 am
My understanding is that the pressure is low enough (?) for me stop using it but I am pretty novice on commenting this matter.
Where did you get the understanding that "the pressure is low enough for me to stop"?
That is really a question you should put to your doctor who (hopefully) will give a answer that is tailored to your specific medical status.

As others have pointed out, sometimes the impact of not using your cpap can be observed immediately (such as morning headaches - likely resulting from oxygen desaturation). Lacking that concrete feedback, what changes may occur by discontinuing maybe more subtle and possibly inconsequential.

As a beginning point, you may want to obtain your original sleep study to compare your untreated AHI versus your treated AHI.

If you think you need a new sleep study (to decide to continue therapy or not) you are going to have to discuss it with your Dr.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
by GrumpyHere
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:48 am

I consider that "study" to be bulldonkers. Some keywords -
the intensity and duration of this effect remains unclear

it seems reasonable
It's a review paper.

Fulltext (use Opera browser with its VPN set to Europe to download)
https://repository.uantwerpen.be/docman ... d/9276.pdf

Caveats do apply to review papers/meta studies. N here is only 13. The authors get to pick and choose the studies they emphasize. The Ns in the studies reviewed were also small.

I don't think OP considering stopping CPAP is a good idea.

So the paper is an additional data point to consider if the OP wants to retest.

With the possibility of a washout effect giving a false thumbs-up to stoppage, OP needed an heads-up.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:42 pm
by dataq1
kvck wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:04 am
Check your private messages.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:54 pm
by GrumpyHere
By dataq1

Check your private messages.
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 am
CChamp wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:58 am
by CChamp
Be careful about people sending you advice privately. This sometimes happens when a member is giving bad advice and doesn't want to be corrected by more knowledgeable members. Of course, the nice thing about advice given openly is that it can be reviewed by numerous members for validity. It's a type of peer-review process. :wink:

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 pm
by zonker
GrumpyHere wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:54 pm
By dataq1

Check your private messages.
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 am
CChamp wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:58 am
by CChamp
Be careful about people sending you advice privately. This sometimes happens when a member is giving bad advice and doesn't want to be corrected by more knowledgeable members. Of course, the nice thing about advice given openly is that it can be reviewed by numerous members for validity. It's a type of peer-review process. :wink:
+1

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:10 pm
by D.H.
CPAP treats Sleep Apnea. It does not cure it!

It simply holds the airway open with pressure so that it will not collapse.

When not present, the original condition remains unchanged!

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:58 pm
by dataq1
D.H. wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:10 pm
When not present, the original condition remains unchanged!
Assuming the original causative factors and underlying conditions also remain unchanged.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:03 pm
by Miss Emerita
kvck wrote:
Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:04 am
My understanding is that the pressure is low enough (?) for me stop using it
My AHI in my sleep study was 23 point something, and with a steady EPAP of 5 my AHI is almost always under 1. The fact that someone’s apnea can be treated with a low pressure doesn’t mean they can go without CPAP.

As others have said, to tell whether you still need a machine, you’d need a new sleep study.

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:05 pm
by dataq1
check private message

Re: After first year's results

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:04 pm
by GrumpyHere
by dataq1

check private message
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 am
Be careful about people sending you advice privately. This sometimes happens when a member is giving bad advice and doesn't want to be corrected by more knowledgeable members. Of course, the nice thing about advice given openly is that it can be reviewed by numerous members for validity. It's a type of peer-review process. :wink: