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Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:28 am

Found this while reading The NY Times about how smart devices may affect our well-being. It was behind the firewall, so placed it someplace folks interested could read it. Just one reporters opinion, but worth a quick read. It follows the Pugsian philosophy of "how do you feel" and not "what do the numbers tell you".

https://bit.ly/3L3y5eo

The Pugsian philosophy of sleep has been the most helpful by far. Funny enough my sleep app asks me how happy I am when I wake up and this is probably the most valuable info for data tracking.

I check the time when I am awake. If I can't remember when that was,
then I was probably more asleep than I thought at the time.
I get up when I don't feel like I need more rest, or before I have to be somewhere.

I was wondering the same thing and that is why I am on here today. Is anyone like the guys who made Oscar comparing what date our machines collect with date from any of the sleep apps? I know they were doing something years ago and I gave them a few years worth of my data to use.

Pugsy glad to see you are still here helping those who need it.

To the newbies don't give up, once you get working for you it is worth it!

I use an Apple Watch and it does a pretty good job of tracking sleep.

Check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqtfC70QTU&t=258s

My only sleep quality indicator is upon waking, feeling unusually rested, and realizing I probably did not move from one position during the night. Due to much movement during sleep, I rarely get decent rest and often break the seal on my mask. Just by luck, and rarely, I seem to have not moved and my OSCAR reports show very few leaks.

I move so much that an oximeter does not work correctly for me. My bouncing around is a problem for gathering that data.

At the end of the day, make a subjective rating of how you felt throughout the day, your energy level, whether you had any excess sleepiness, how sharp your brain was, and how you feel at this evening's bedtime. Judging how you slept as soon as you wake up is not accurate. You may feel groggy, but then after you get up and active, you may have a great day.

I also use Apple watch. Generally, if it shows 6.5 or more hours of sleep with around one hour of deep sleep and one hour of REM sleep, I will have a good day. But this is not always true. Sometimes the Apple watch indicates a bad night, but I have a very good day. Occasionally, the watch indicates a good night, but I have a sleepy, fatigued day. (This may be due to leftover fatigue from a strenuous day before.)