CPAP Shortage

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CPAP Shortage

Post by JeffL » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm

It's time for my 5 year Resmed Air Sense 10 machine replacement but it seems like all the distributors have it back ordered and don't know when they will be delivered. Has anyone here heard anything?

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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by zonker » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:20 pm

JeffL wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm
It's time for my 5 year Resmed Air Sense 10 machine replacement but it seems like all the distributors have it back ordered and don't know when they will be delivered. Has anyone here heard anything?
just to bring you up to speed, resperonics has had a major recall on their products, due to their foam disintegrating in their machines. this is a major er, mess up which will take them seemingly forever to fix. as you might imagine, folks effected by their recall are looking for machines, ANY machines. so that's happening.

then fold into that this thing called "supply chain issues". perhaps you've heard of it?

put these together and resmed machines are as scarce as hens teeth. prices have gone up and they are hard to find.

nobody knows when this cluster *%$@ will end. my advice is to look for used machines. forum friend lsat can often get mitts on airsense 10 machines. you may want to pm him.

other than that, looks ebay or facebook or whoever the hell else for a used machine.

you may try secondwindcpap. but brace yourself. this is a sellers market.

good luck!
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:51 pm

If you want to use your insurance to get a new machine you will just have to use your DME and wait until they can get a supply of ResMed machines.
The shortage is very real. ResMed has a new model...the AirSense 11 models and you can't find them online anywhere.
They are going to DMEs and doctors sleep clinics for now.
For now ResMed is manufacturing both the AirSense 10 models and the AirSense 11 models to try to fill the void.

So if you want to involve your insurance you will have to wait.
How long? No one really knows but I have heard through the rumor mill that look for things to not ease up until mid summer this year.

And if you look online at prices for AirSense 10 models....be prepared to have major sticker shock.
ResMed knows they have a captive market with the Respironics recall...and they are making as much money off of it as they possibly can. The good old American way....capitalism...supply and demand causes major price increases for both new and used machines.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by JeffL » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:05 pm

Thanks for the info.

Yes, I want Medicare and my insurance to pick up the tab, so I guess I'll have to wait. They give me a free ride every 5 years so I just want to take advantage of it. I'm OK as long as my S10 holds up and I have my old S9 for backup if needed. I didn't know about the S11 until after I posted. I guess that's the one to wait for.

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Post by theladymay » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:15 pm

If you decide you can't wait for DME/Insurance and want to purchase new, I got one at the end of November at Hart Medical online courtesy of one of my dear daughters. I hated taking money from her so I searched for the lowest price I could find at a place that actually had them in stock (I did call to verify first) Base price was and still is 799$ but they have a 20% discount on ResMed stuff (RESMED20) that brought it down to 639$ for the machine. I also bought a mask etc but total was under 800$ which is terrible but about as good as it seems to get for new self-pay. My daughter paid late on a Friday afternoon and I had it on Thursday morning. No affiliation or anything and sorry if this breaks any rules - just hoping to possibly be helpful and am too old and tired to remember which groups are which.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by Okie bipap » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pm

Don't expect to get a new machine every five years if you are on Medicare. They no longer provide new machines every five years. They only replace machines that are not working properly and and cost too much to repair. When I was at the sleep clinic last month, the nurse practitioner said the Resmed representative had been in a few days earlier and told her they are having getting machines. Everything is tied up on container ships waiting to be unloaded.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by SleepGeek » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:52 pm

Okie bipap wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pm
Everything is tied up on container ships waiting to be unloaded.
Saw on the news once they load the cargo on the trains the trains are getting ransacked in LA? So things may never make it to their destination market.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:09 pm

SleepGeek wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:52 pm
Okie bipap wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pm
Everything is tied up on container ships waiting to be unloaded.
Saw on the news once they load the cargo on the trains the trains are getting ransacked in LA? So things may never make it to their destination market.
Maybe only ONE train, but the LA media . . . :shock:
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by Rock Star » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:06 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:09 pm
SleepGeek wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:52 pm
Okie bipap wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pm
Everything is tied up on container ships waiting to be unloaded.
Saw on the news once they load the cargo on the trains the trains are getting ransacked in LA? So things may never make it to their destination market.
Maybe only ONE train, but the LA media . . . :shock:
Everybody wants recognition, network jobs, fame, money.
At least 17 cargo trains derailed near Lincoln Heights
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by Wulfman... » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:01 pm

JeffL wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm
It's time for my 5 year Resmed Air Sense 10 machine replacement but it seems like all the distributors have it back ordered and don't know when they will be delivered. Has anyone here heard anything?
JeffL wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:05 pm
Thanks for the info.

Yes, I want Medicare and my insurance to pick up the tab, so I guess I'll have to wait. They give me a free ride every 5 years so I just want to take advantage of it. I'm OK as long as my S10 holds up and I have my old S9 for backup if needed. I didn't know about the S11 until after I posted. I guess that's the one to wait for.
This attitude of entitlement drives me crazy! (to put it mildly)
I believe that you will be waiting a LONG time......and deservedly so.


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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by dataq1 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:21 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:01 pm
JeffL wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm
It's time for my 5 year Resmed Air Sense 10 machine replacement but it seems like all the distributors have it back ordered and don't know when they will be delivered. Has anyone here heard anything?
JeffL wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:05 pm
This attitude of entitlement drives me crazy! (to put it mildly)
I believe that you will be waiting a LONG time......and deservedly so.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by D.H. » Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:35 pm

In addition to the recall and supply chain issues, there's an additional issue.

Many CPAP machines were repurposed to treat COVID-19 patients. That means that those machines are not available to treat Sleep Apnea.

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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:20 pm

"Entitlement?"
FYI: Medicare is not free.
I pay my premiums.
It's only reasonable to expect my money's worth.
Aetna has made a pile on my supplement--except maybe one month.
That was when they implanted my chemo port.
Otherwise, they have been RAKING it in.
Medicare--yep, I paid for that, too--and am still paying.
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by palerider » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:32 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:20 pm
"Entitlement?"
FYI: Medicare is not free.
I pay my premiums.
It's only reasonable to expect my money's worth.
Aetna has made a pile on my supplement--except maybe one month.
That was when they implanted my chemo port.
Otherwise, they have been RAKING it in.
Medicare--yep, I paid for that, too--and am still paying.
Well, you know how it is, some people's brains are just too small to see the big picture, and expecting to get value from something you've *paid* for, outrageous, isn't it?
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Re: CPAP Shortage

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:38 pm

ASS-uming everyone but them is "on the dole", of course.
My attitude--"There but for the grace of God, go I."
Never occurs to some.
Alarming how devastating a little bad luck can be . . .
And there is plenty of THAT to go around.
I'd cross my fingers, but those silly webs keep me honest.
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