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Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:20 am
by chunkyfrog
Knowing how Resmed people think, I would lean toward "designed to fail"
whenever possible, just to promote sales of proprietary components.
They know what they have, and that is us. (by the short hairs)
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:05 pm
by palerider
Scott_G wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:24 pm
SleepGeek wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:17 pm
incoherent mess
That was certainly an incoherent mess. Congrats!
You've neatly summed up the troll you were responding to.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:25 pm
by SleepGeek
chunkyfrog wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:20 am
Knowing how Resmed people think, I would lean toward "designed to fail"
whenever possible, just to promote sales of proprietary components.
They know what they have, and that is us. (by the short hairs)
And here I was defending re$med saying they know what they are doing.
The DC-DC converter was designed shut off to save the battery.
I'm pretty sure the re$med design engineers knew the cpap device would not power on (or would shut off) if/when the incoming DC voltage was too low.
IMHO any engineer, self proclaimed or otherwise, would understand that Ohm's Law says that as the voltage drops the current will decrease making it impossible to "burn up" said circuit or components.
This is for those who never heard of Ohm's Law, it is explained here --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLLq6Rm5tU
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:05 pm
Scott_G wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:24 pm
SleepGeek wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:17 pm
incoherent mess
That was certainly an incoherent mess. Congrats!
You've neatly summed up the troll you were responding to.
palerider aka GrumpyHere wrote: ↑
What exactly do you think you're adding to this thread?
How many alter ids do you have?
YOU claim to be cleaning the internet of any misinformation
YOU are part of the problem - not the solution.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:37 pm
by Scott_G
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As a specific and helpful response to @SleepGeek:
Not sure if it's crack or alcohol, but help is available:
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=APq ... 1417&dpr=1
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:52 pm
by palerider
SleepGeek wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:25 pm
How many alter ids do you have?
YOU claim to be cleaning the internet of any misinformation
YOU are part of the problem - not the solution.
None, your delusions notwithstanding, I have any desire to play the bullshit games that trolls like you play.
I post as me, and none other.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:53 pm
by palerider
Scott_G wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:37 pm
do not feed troll.jpg
Oops. yeah, sorry.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:58 pm
by Scott_G
palerider wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:53 pm
Scott_G wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:37 pm
do not feed troll.jpg
Oops. yeah, sorry.
You are forgiven.
It's a delicate balance, and tough not to respond. Trolls will be trolls. Say nothing and let them rule, or push back and create more BS responses.
There is no perfect solution, but keep in mind the more they spew, the stupider they look.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:04 pm
by SleepGeek
Who likes to argue?
Scott_G » Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:37 pm
Took 12 min. to reply
Gee last time it was 7 min.
Getting slower
But hey everyone is good at something
YOU found your niche.
I didn't even mention YOU
So whose alter id are you? hmmm
Look he got it down to 5 min. lol
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Been disagreeing and arguing ever since.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:09 pm
by Scott_G
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Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:42 am
by ChicagoGranny
Scott_G wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:58 pm
.
You familiar with the Foe feature?
Unfortunately, it doesn't hide your activity from the Foe.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:44 am
by Scott_G
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:42 am
You familiar with the Foe feature?
Unfortunately, it doesn't hide your activity from the Foe.
I am. However, as you indicate, it isn't entirely effective. It makes some threads tough to follow, as posts that reference or reply to the foe's obscured post appear out of context. And obscuring those posts often leaves misinformation to stand unchallenged, which is a disservice to everyone and particularly to new members who come here seeking legitimate information. That all makes using the foe list a tough call for me, but maybe I'll get there eventually.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 3:52 pm
by walnutc
So I got the AirSense DC/DC to use with my deep cycle battery for camping with my resmed 11. It powers up, runs for awhile but intermittently shuts off - not sure if that is the power threshold you were talking about Scott. I don't know if you have recommendations for settings or to improve my setup so that it actually works consistently. I used to use battery -> converter/inverter? or something -> dc for my resmed 10 that died.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 5:13 pm
by Scott_G
Is the battery fully charged? How old is it?
Best guess is that (under load) it is dropping below 11.4V -- at which point the AirMini DC/DC converter will simply shut down. After the battery rests a while, it might be able to muster >11.4V again for a short time. Best way to "prove" that is (or isn't) what's happening is with a logging multimeter connected to the battery during use if you or a friend/neighbor has one.
A healthy, fully charged "car sized" deep cycle (i.e., 55-75AH) 12V battery should handle the Airsense11 (via the AirMini DC/DC converter) for at least 10-15 hours with humidifier and tube on -- or maybe 2-3 times that long with just the -- before the voltage drops below the 11.4V the converter needs. That's an estimate of course, and actual runtime will vary based on ambient temps, pressures, flows, etc.
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 5:38 pm
by walnutc
Yeah fully charged battery, maybe a year old. I did notice the light went orange and green depending on if I was exhaling or inhaling, which seemed weird. I have tried my deep cycle battery directly connected to the air mini converter and plugged into a piece I had with my old setup that had the red/black -> 12v. Your setup is just your deep cycle battery -> converter? I'll have to look into the multimeter to double check, but I imagine it is the power draw dipping. Are there products that force it to draw a minimum amount? Or does it sound like I have something hooked up wrong?
Re: Resmed Airsense 11 - AC/DC adapter?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 6:22 pm
by Rock Star
Scott_G wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 5:13 pm
Is the battery fully charged? How old is it?
Best guess is that (under load) it is dropping below 11.4V -- at which point the AirMini DC/DC converter will simply shut down. After the battery rests a while, it might be able to muster >11.4V again for a short time. Best way to "prove" that is (or isn't) what's happening is with a logging multimeter connected to the battery during use if you or a friend/neighbor has one.
A healthy, fully charged "car sized" deep cycle (i.e., 55-75AH) 12V battery should handle the Airsense11 (via the AirMini DC/DC converter) for at least 10-15 hours with humidifier and tube on -- or maybe 2-3 times that long with just the -- before the voltage drops below the 11.4V the converter needs. That's an estimate of course, and actual runtime will vary based on ambient temps, pressures, flows, etc.
Color me silly I thought it was you who said that when the voltage went low Airsense 11 could burn up