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Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CP

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 11:32 am
by zonker
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 12:20 am


3. What supplies are essential and should I make sure I have to get started? (E.g., Cleaning supplies, filters, extra parts, etc)
chiming in to stress what chicago granny has said- NO SOCLEAN! not only a scam(as it does nothing that soap and water do), but also can void any warranty and is potentially harmful to your health as it uses ozone to "clean".

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 1:59 pm
by Lemmy
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 9:30 am
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 12:20 am
2. I often have a slightly stuffy nose due to allergies and a deviated septum, so I believe I often end up sleeping with my mouth open. Have any of you found that a nasal mask allows you to overcome something like this due to the pressure and/or the humidifier?
Some can, some can't. You won't know until you try.

Why live with a deviated septum? It's unhealthy. Today's surgical methods are very good and easy on the patient. Mouth breathing is not nearly as healthy as nasal breathing - day or night. Correction of a deviated septum can also make it easier to use CPAP. Schedule a consultation and examination of the airway with an ENT. Discuss with her your apnea diagnosis.
My septum isn't very problematic as it's not terrible. My ENT says that surgery would most likely not change anything for me and therefore did not recommend it.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CP

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 2:01 pm
by Lemmy
GrumpyHere wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 3:38 am
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 12:20 am
Thank you everyone for your replies. I thought that the pricing they were offering seemed absurdly high. I’m glad I asked. I believe the Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset was the unit they were talking about giving me.
Make sure you specify exactly what you want. And you want the ”Autoset for Her” with the extra algo. They will try to screw you every which way.

What is different about the "Autoset for Her" model? I was under the impression that it just offers less pressure. As a man, would I find this feature set helpful?

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 2:31 pm
by ChicagoGranny
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 2:01 pm
What is different about the "Autoset for Her" model? I was under the impression that it just offers less pressure.
A gender-specific algorithm
The pioneering new algorithm used in the AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her works by increasing sensitivity to flow limitation and optimizing the response to these events. By responding to each flow-limited breath, the algorithm helps provide comfortable therapy for women.

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https://www.resmed.com/en-us/healthcare ... t-for-her/
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 2:01 pm
As a man, would I find this feature set helpful?
You won't know unless you try it. Even then, you might not know because the difference could be hard to discern.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 2:32 pm
by ChicagoGranny
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 2:31 pm
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 2:01 pm
What is different about the "Autoset for Her" model? I was under the impression that it just offers less pressure.
A gender-specific algorithm
The pioneering new algorithm used in the AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her works by increasing sensitivity to flow limitation and optimizing the response to these events. By responding to each flow-limited breath, the algorithm helps provide comfortable therapy for women.

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https://www.resmed.com/en-us/healthcare ... t-for-her/
Lemmy wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 2:01 pm
As a man, would I find this feature set helpful?
You won't know unless you try it. Even then, you might not know because the difference could be hard to discern.
From reporting in this forum, there are very few, even among females, who report better results with the For-Her setting.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:55 pm
by Lemmy
yesterday I received my prescription in the mail from my doctor so that I can purchase my supplies from whomever I wish. I called a local store called C-PAP Sentral. I was told that there was an "upgrade fee" of $350 to buy a Resmed Airsense unit because "it is one of their best machines." There would also be. a $45 a month rent-to-own fee. It looks like I'll just buy online.

One more question regarding the machine: Setup fees have been mentioned from the places I contacted. Is there something special that needs to be done in order to have the machine ready to use or can this be done easily yourself?

Thank you everyone for your help and advice. I'm looking forward to getting started!

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:12 pm
by ChicagoGranny
Lemmy wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 3:55 pm
I was told that there was an "upgrade fee" of $350 to buy a Resmed Airsense unit because "it is one of their best machines." There would also be. a $45 a month rent-to-own fee. It looks like I'll just buy online.
Have you talked to your insurance company about network DMEs, what the insurance pays and what you should pay?
Lemmy wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 3:55 pm
Setup fees have been mentioned from the places I contacted. Is there something special that needs to be done in order to have the machine ready to use or can this be done easily yourself?
Easy. Stick to this one thread for help with the setup.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 5:45 pm
by SleepGeek
Lemmy wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 3:55 pm
called a local store called C-PAP Sentral. I was told that there was an "upgrade fee" of $350 to buy a Resmed Airsense unit because "it is one of their best machines." There would also be. a $45 a month rent-to-own fee. It looks like I'll just buy online.
Your on the right track - do NOT feed them any money. As mentioned contact your insurance to find out who else is "in Network" - your insurance might also be interested about the "upgrade fee".

What is often done is to have the doctor write the Make & Model on the equipment order then they are not allowed to deviate from that. You should also have the doc write "mask of patients choice" - reason is it is hard and time consuming to find "your" mask - the one you like and likes you back.

As mention stick here and you will get all the help you need to succeed.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:52 am
by Lemmy
I ordered an Airsense 10, and F20 and P10 masks from CPAP.com. Everything should be here Sunday.

Is there anything special I need to know about setting up the machine? Since this is my first time with one of these I want to do it right!

Thank you all for your help! I can't say enough positive things about this board and its members. You have all been so kind.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:40 pm
by Lemmy
Ok, it's here!!! I'm excited to try my new Airsense 10 Autoset out tonight. I also have F20 (full face) and P10 (nasal) masks.

CPAP.com sent an email saying my machine was setup and the pressure range is 4 cm - 16 cm.

The startup video on Resmeds website basically said you just strap in and go. I tried the full facemask on and turned it on. It definitely puts a little pressure around my nose which makes it feel more stuffed up and so I immediately started breathing through my mouth. My mouth got dry very quickly and this feels like a big concern for me. I turned the humidifier setting up all the way, but I didn't notice any real change. I don't know how long it takes the humidifier to really get going. The air didn't seem especially humid. When it first kicked on I thought, "I'm going to suffocate!" Fortunately, it got better. (This is the first time I've ever even had one of these on, so I didn't really know what to expect.)

I did try the mask fit setting and it had a happy face, but when I was done trying the actual sleep mode, it had a sad face. I'll have to investigate that further.

If anyone has any recommended settings or if there is something else I need to do, please let me know. I'm going to try to find some videos and browse through the manual. I'll also look into how to set up OSCAR.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:56 pm
by Pugsy
Lemmy wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:40 pm
Ok, it's here!!! I'm excited to try my new Airsense 10 Autoset out tonight. I also have F20 (full face) and P10 (nasal) masks.

CPAP.com sent an email saying my machine was setup and the pressure range is 4 cm - 16 cm.

The startup video on Resmeds website basically said you just strap in and go. I tried the full facemask on and turned it on. It definitely puts a little pressure around my nose which makes it feel more stuffed up and so I immediately started breathing through my mouth. My mouth got dry very quickly and this feels like a big concern for me. I turned the humidifier setting up all the way, but I didn't notice any real change. I don't know how long it takes the humidifier to really get going. The air didn't seem especially humid. When it first kicked on I thought, "I'm going to suffocate!" Fortunately, it got better. (This is the first time I've ever even had one of these on, so I didn't really know what to expect.)

I did try the mask fit setting and it had a happy face, but when I was done trying the actual sleep mode, it had a sad face. I'll have to investigate that further.

If anyone has any recommended settings or if there is something else I need to do, please let me know. I'm going to try to find some videos and browse through the manual. I'll also look into how to set up OSCAR.

It takes several minutes (like 30) for the humidity to really change and even then it's not something that is a huge difference anyway depending on the ambient humidity in your house.

Try this....Set the minimum to 6 instead of 4...and set EPR to 2 or 3...and see if your breathing is more comfortable for you.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:25 pm
by Lemmy
Well, it's been two nights and I am exhausted. I could use some advice to improve my experience. I'll elaborate on how things have been below and perhaps some of you could share your insights?

The first night I tried the p10 nasal mask first. My nose quickly got sore and while I did drift off to sleep after an hour I switch to the F20 full facemask. Unfortunately, the mask leaked a lot with my beard. The Airsense 10 Autoset I have gave the seal rating a frowny face and said I had 6.1 episodes per hour. The F20 really hurts the bridge of my nose. I don't think it's going to work, but I did wear it for about 7 hours. As I mentioned earlier I am a stomach sleeper and trying to sleep with the masks on is a lot harder to do and more uncomfortable than I thought it would be.

Last night I wore the P10 nasal mask all night. I tried both the medium and large-sized nasal attachments. Even without any of the strap adjustment clips in use, the mask feels a little tight. I did wear it for about 7-8 hours. If the hose near the mask or the mask itself touches the bedding it seems to put more pressure up against my nose and begins to hurt quickly. This morning it said the seal was good and that I had 2.9 episodes per hour, but this morning I didn't feel rested at all from being uncomfortable all night. I believe the machine said my highest pressure level was an 8.

I did experience an odd sensation last night. After about an hour of dozing off to sleep on my side and taking deep long breaths, I woke up feeling spacey and relaxed. Almost like I was sleepwalking. Perhaps this was from all the oxygen from breathing deep? I got up, went to the bathroom, and tried to go back to sleep. Later I work up incredibly hungry. This isn't normal for me, but I wasn't sure if it was from the air going to my stomach or just a coincidence. I went to the kitchen and ate some cottage cheese and cashews and tried to go back to sleep. Sleeping on my back and side is so foreign to me that I couldn't do it (after 41 years of sleeping on my stomach only). I woke up exhausted and my nose was sore from the p10.

I am wondering if a mask like the Phillips DreamWear style that has the hose at the top of the head might be a better option for me. I welcome any thoughts or input any of you might have.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:02 pm
by Pugsy
The ResMed P10 headgear has been known to be a little too snug for some people. Heck when I first tried it I had a sore nose and I had been using a nasal pillow mask for years before the P10 was released. The good news...the headgear will stretch out fairly quickly and become less of an issue and/or there are other alternative headgears that will work and not be so tight.

The nasal pillow masks that attach at the top of the head....might be a solution but bear in mind they also have some unwanted baggage....a bit noisy for one thing and unless fitted correctly...easy to either move around and leak or even cause the same sore nose issues when people tighten them up too much.

You have a beard...using full face mask is going to be challenging in terms of leak control. It can be done but it's a challenge.
The best option is the nasal pillow mask but then it has its own challenges. Nothing is ever perfect it seems.

The most common error people make with the nasal pillow mask is that they crank down the tension so much it causes pressure on the end of the nose. Often causing what we call "piggy nose" because it is pulling the end of the nose upwards....when that happens it's simply way too tight.
The P10 headgear is adjustable but not in the traditional way...adjustments in tension are made by separating the top and bottom strap.

My suggestion for now (until if/when you try a different mask) see if you can stretch out the headgear a bit physically and make sure you have the straps positioned for the least amount of tension being placed on the end of your nose.

The mask journey....the hardest part of this therapy IMHO. Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find your prince.
Try as many masks as you can while you can...only way to find the one that is your prince.

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:26 am
by zonker
Lemmy wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:25 pm
Well, it's been two nights and I am exhausted. I could use some advice to improve my experience. I'll elaborate on how things have been below and perhaps some of you could share your insights?

use lanolin cream on that p10. it will keep the sore nose at bay and helps slightly to keep it adhered.

look for lansinoh cream in the infant care aisle of grocery or drug store. it's made to protect the nipples of nursing mothers. seriously, not a joke.

you put a very tiny amount on the mask itself. and it won't harm the mask. just clean it off the next morning.

and as pugsy says, that strap will loosen up over time.

good luck!

oh! just thought of something else. forum friend dogslobber discovered that a different, adjustable headband works on the p10. i can't remember the name so let me give him a shout-
Dog Slobber wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:45 pm

Re: Newbie looking for help on first Auto CPAP

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:19 pm
by Dog Slobber
zonker wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:26 am

oh! just thought of something else. forum friend dogslobber discovered that a different, adjustable headband works on the p10. i can't remember the name so let me give him a shout-
Dog Slobber wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:45 pm
The head gear for the n30 works well on the p10, has an adjustable clasp and can be bought separately.


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