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Re: Hey guys
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:18 pm
by Juggsy75
Pugsy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:22 pm
Hyponeas aren't always so easy to tell but if you look at the breathing prior to the flag it should give you a good idea.
Also remember....you can have a real asleep event as the first flag and then that event causes the arousal and subsequent false positive flags are related to the first event causing the arousal.
I don't have a good example of that handy but I will go see if I can find one. Won't be easy though because I don't have many real asleep events at all. The bulk of mine are all SWJ false positives due to pain and tossing and turning a lot.
But I do have these handy.
These 2 flagged events below...probably asleep real events. Looks like sleep before and after the flags.
This one below...all SWJ false positives.
This one below the asleep time is circled in red...then arousal breathing comes after and everything flagged after is false positives.
And a more zoomed out view of the red circled asleep breathing and what happened after the arousal...everything else is arousal breathing.
trying to get to grips with what is real and false, im thinking top ones are false, bottom ones are real, hypopneas are quite difficult to distinguish i think
Re: Hey guys
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:19 pm
by Juggsy75
Juggsy75 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:18 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:22 pm
Hyponeas aren't always so easy to tell but if you look at the breathing prior to the flag it should give you a good idea.
Also remember....you can have a real asleep event as the first flag and then that event causes the arousal and subsequent false positive flags are related to the first event causing the arousal.
I don't have a good example of that handy but I will go see if I can find one. Won't be easy though because I don't have many real asleep events at all. The bulk of mine are all SWJ false positives due to pain and tossing and turning a lot.
But I do have these handy.
These 2 flagged events below...probably asleep real events. Looks like sleep before and after the flags.
This one below...all SWJ false positives.
This one below the asleep time is circled in red...then arousal breathing comes after and everything flagged after is false positives.
And a more zoomed out view of the red circled asleep breathing and what happened after the arousal...everything else is arousal breathing.
trying to get to grips with what is real and false, im thinking top ones are false, bottom ones are real, hypopneas are quite difficult to distinguish i think
Re: Hey guys
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:55 pm
by Pugsy
See the big gulp of air right before the flagged CA/central? We don't take big gulps of air when we are asleep unless it's a post recovery (after an apnea event) big gulp. When seen prior to a flagged event....not a recovery breath.
We take them maybe when half asleep and turn over in bed and hold our breath....not real.
The 2 hyponeas...first one is probably real...second one is arousal related and likely because of the first one.
Hyponeas can be difficult to evaluate...heck I see hyponeas flagged and I wonder why.
