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My husband bought a SoClean before we heard about problems with it. He uses it for some of his pap equipment, and now he also uses it to sterilize his cotton covid masks when he uses them for a quick errand or so. After he has used one for more than one day he tosses them in the washer. Seems to work well.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:38 pm

My husband bought a SoClean before we heard about problems with it. He uses it for some of his pap equipment,

Even though you know that Resmed will void warranties and the FDA says 'don't buy' he still uses it on his pap equipment.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:38 pm

and now he also uses it to sterilize his cotton covid masks when he uses them for a quick errand or so. After he has used one for more than one day he tosses them in the washer. Seems to work well.

"seems to work well", only there's no evidence that they work *at all*.

In *controlled testing* with "filter paper" there is some evidence that they have an effect, but not that anything is "sterilized'.

but, hey, if it makes you feel better to think it helps in order to justify the expense, more power to you.

Metrodigit wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:31 am

I am a new CPAP user and I ordered the SoClean 2 and started using it with my Phillips Dreamstation Auto CPAP Machine. I am hearing mix messaging regarding the safety of the SoClean machine as it leaves Ozone odor and it is difficult to get used to. Does anyone with long time use of the SoClean 2 machine to speak to the safety and effectiveness vs. normal mask and tube washing weekly with soap and water? Thanks

has anyone noticed that this user hasn't been back since asking the question?

First (and ONLY) post on a Sunday.
Definitely a Scamclean troll.
Will not be back.
I wonder how much they get paid for their spam . . .

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm

I wonder how much they get paid for their spam . . .

And I wonder how much FauxClean would pay me not to reply to the spam.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm

I wonder how much they get paid for their spam . . .

And I wonder how much FauxClean would pay me not to reply to the spam.

how much will you take not to respond to me?

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:22 pm

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm

I wonder how much they get paid for their spam . . .

And I wonder how much FauxClean would pay me not to reply to the spam.

how much will you take not to respond to me?

How much you got? My Venmo account is pretty dry these days.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:36 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:22 pm

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 pm

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:50 pm

I wonder how much they get paid for their spam . . .

And I wonder how much FauxClean would pay me not to reply to the spam.

how much will you take not to respond to me?

How much you got? My Venmo account is pretty dry these days.

what is this "Venmo" you speak of? is this another way you young punks rip off us hapless senior citizens?

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:42 pm

what is this "Venmo" you speak of? is this another way you young punks rip off us hapless senior citizens?

No. It's perfectly safe. In fact, I'll have a highly respected Nigerian prince contact you with the details for the international money transfer.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:49 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:42 pm

what is this "Venmo" you speak of? is this another way you young punks rip off us hapless senior citizens?

No. It's perfectly safe. In fact, I'll have a highly respected Nigerian prince contact you with the details for the international money transfer.

oh! let me go get my platinum card, in that case.

What is wrong with you people?

What I wrote yesterday was certainly not my first post. I have been here for months. We don't have any Resmed machines, so warranty is no issue. I have no interest in arguing over the merits or horrors of the SoClean. My point was not that SoClean is such a good machine, but rather that since we already have it, we had found a good secondary use for it.

My brother in law is a lead chemist with the FDA and says that using ozone for sanitization purposes is safe and effective. So I figured it should do a good job of killing any germ or virus on a homemade cotton Covid 19 mask. No inhalation of ozone will occur.

I am seriously disappointed at the level of unfriendliness and nastiness expressed towards me. I just thought that if some other innocent person already had a SoClean machine, maybe they would find my post helpful.

Sad Deborah

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

What is wrong with you people?

There's nothing wrong with an intense dislike of quackery.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

What I wrote yesterday was certainly not my first post. I have been here for months. We don't have any Resmed machines, so warranty is no issue.

So you don't care if the ozone degrades something in your non-resmed machine, got it.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

I have no interest in arguing over the merits or horrors of the SoClean.

Excellent, given that there are no merits to the NoClean.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

My point was not that SoClean is such a good machine, but rather that since we already have it, we had found a good secondary use for it.

There is no *evidence* that this is any sort of a 'good secondary use' for it.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

My brother in law is a lead chemist with the FDA and says that using ozone for sanitization purposes is safe and effective.

Read something from someone who works in the low temperature sterilization industry about that very thing:
viewtopic/t157842/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 9#p1210375

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

So I figured it should do a good job of killing any germ or virus on a homemade cotton Covid 19 mask. No inhalation of ozone will occur.

Well, you "figured" that an ineffectual machine would do a good job. great, and we pointed out that there's absolutely *no evidence* beyond you having "figured", and you don't like that.

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

I am seriously disappointed at the level of unfriendliness and nastiness expressed towards me. I just thought that if some other innocent person already had a SoClean machine, maybe they would find my post helpful.

If you have been here for a while, as you allege above, you should know that this fact based community is very anti-scam, and all of the ozone based machines are scams, the FDA says they're scams, the FDA says they're not approved, and the FDA says there is no evidence that they do anything useful, and indeed are harmful.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a ... one-gas-or

Deborah K. wrote: ↑

Fri May 01, 2020 11:48 am

Sad Deborah

I'm sorry you're sad. Perhaps someday you'll be able to hear that people disagree with you without letting it make you sad.

I do not intend to reply to any more sarcastic responses.

Reminds me of those people (on Dr. Phil?) who when telling about someone else's misfortune find it necessary to talk about how much THEY (talker) cried.

My bedroom Window A/C has a Ozone function built into it, I have never used in in 3 years, and never will, I love this A/C, is power saver, has a remote, but I'll never use the (Ozone feature?). When it quits cooling, I may put it up for sale, so a No Clean owner can use it to add a little more ozone to their No-Cleaner machine, since it will be unused I think $ 300 should be fair, shipping extra. Jim

Special price for No-Clean owners....