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Good one, Dino!

How many times have I watched that movie!

Poll: Are you in favor of mandatory vacations?

No, I'll never agree to mandatory vaccines, and this comes from someone who vaccinates.

Edit: Oh crap I misread. LOL. I need a mandatory vacation

She said "vacations", I suspect the kind otherwise known as "sick leave"--or quarantine.
Often caused by the failure to get vaccinated.
Missed that one, didn't ya?
Requiring vaccination will not be necessary, because we can do quite well without those who prefer getting sick.

Just pick a narrative already...

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:47 pm

She said "vacations", I suspect the kind otherwise known as "sick leave"--or quarantine.
Often caused by the failure to get vaccinated.
Missed that one, didn't ya?
Requiring vaccination will not be necessary, because we can do quite well without those who prefer getting sick.

omg!



that went RIGHT over my head.

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:58 pm

Poll: Are you in favor of mandatory vacations?

No, but I'm in favour of mandatory vasectomies.

JayDee wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:13 pm

Just pick a narrative already...

If you really believe that, you are poorly informed.

kbh209 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:20 pm

No, I'll never agree to mandatory vaccines, and this comes from someone who vaccinates.

Edit: Oh crap I misread. LOL. I need a mandatory vacation

Thanks for playing!

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:15 am

JayDee wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:13 pm

Just pick a narrative already...

If you really believe that, you are poorly informed.

It's not a matter of "belief", it's a matter of frequent observation. It's paraphrasing what I have heard folks saying with as much sincerity as they can muster:
Flu is low because people *are* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.
Covid is bad because people are *not* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.

Which is it? It can't be both.

The pretzel logic has become comical and when you point it out, the folks who view their Covid fear as if it were a new "virtue" get angry when they can't reconcile it.

There is a rather stark difference between those who rationally and cautiously regard the COVID risk and adhere to the associated precautions --and-- those who use their overly dramatic Covid fear as so much "social-plumage", seemingly to impress their friends and appear virtuous. Example: Like certain politicians warning against Thanksgiving gatherings with dire, ominous threats, then getting on a plane to join their extended family for a thanksgiving gathering. Seriously?

So, to the point, they should pick their narrative and stick with it as if they actually believe it. If someone insists on taking us for fools and arguing it both ways, we get to disregard their opinion as invalid, hypocritical and worthy of righteous derision.

Opinions may vary...
-JD

JayDee wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:28 pm

Flu is low because people *are* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.
Covid is bad because people are *not* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.

Which is it? It can't be both.

Yes, you can have both.

The Flu is dramatically because the COVID prevention measures that some (but not all), are reducing the spread that we are typically accustomed to.

COVID is still bad because the prevention measures are still not good enough to address the transmission of COVID because it has a much higher R-naught value than the flu. It's also bad because being a novel virus our bodies are less adapted to fighting it, and as a society we have less experience treating it.

JayDee wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:28 pm

So, to the point, they should pick their narrative and stick with it as if they actually believe it. If someone insists on taking us for fools and arguing it both ways, we get to disregard their opinion as invalid, hypocritical and worthy of righteous derision.

Opinions may vary...
-JD

Got to agree with JD.

I wear a mask, get temperature checked daily at work, we have to wipe our desks with germ killer when we get there and before we leave. Then they make all three shifts come in at the same time the day before thanksgiving and every cubical is full wall to wall people. Make up your damn minds are we in a pandemic and being safe and social distancing or are we pretending it doesn't exist. Pick one. At this point I am beyond caring which. Just decide.

JayDee wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:28 pm

Flu is low because people *are* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.
Covid is bad because people are *not* adhering to Covid prevention measures like masking & distancing.

Which is it? It can't be both....

Example: Like certain politicians warning against Thanksgiving gatherings with dire, ominous threats

Mask wearing and other precautions have likely decreased incidences of flu but to get a better handle on a new, virulent virus that there is no vaccine for we need to do better with common sense public health measures; both things are true at the same time. The tired COVID19 vs. flu comparisons are ridiculous apples vs oranges arguments. COVID19 is more contagious and more deadly than influenza.

My family opted for in person Thanksgiving with only our household and we connected with other relatives thru Zoom. The cool thing about our unconventional Thanksgiving was for the first time in forever my brother and his family we able to join in on the celebration from their home in Thailand.
The Thanksgiving day count for new COVID19 cases in Thailand population 69.3 million was 16 (all 16 were foreigners). The Thanksgiving Day count in the rural Mountain Colorado County I live in (Population 56k) was 73. Thailand for the most part is open (travel is still restricted). My niece is back to in person school full time, my brother and his wife are back to working in their offices, stores restaurants, ect are fully open. In the Colorado county I live in the schools have all had to go back online, restaurants are closed to in person dining, most businesses are restricted to 25% capacity, and there are 0 available ICU beds.

While mask wearing before COVID wasn’t really a part of Thai culture as in countries like Japan, the Thai people fully embraced all recommendations health officials made including wearing masks.

Rather than the apples vs. oranges argument of COVID compared to flu, consider the oranges vs. oranges argument of COVID in the US vs. COVID in countries that have embraced best public health measures.