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Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:50 pm

They say that humidification helps reduce vulnerability to upper respiratory infections. I got so used to sleeping without humidification when my first CPAP humidifier crapped out (known issue with PRS1's) that I never use humidification any more. I guess I better start.

Which could potentially be helpful should a sars-cov-2 shedding person wander by the cpap intake while you're sleeping.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:15 pm

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:50 pm

They say that humidification helps reduce vulnerability to upper respiratory infections. I got so used to sleeping without humidification when my first CPAP humidifier crapped out (known issue with PRS1's) that I never use humidification any more. I guess I better start.

Which could potentially be helpful should a sars-cov-2 shedding person wander by the cpap intake while you're sleeping.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:15 pm

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:50 pm

They say that humidification helps reduce vulnerability to upper respiratory infections. I got so used to sleeping without humidification when my first CPAP humidifier crapped out (known issue with PRS1's) that I never use humidification any more. I guess I better start.

Which could potentially be helpful should a sars-cov-2 shedding person wander by the cpap intake while you're sleeping.

There will be CPAPers sleeping in a household where there is a person with corona virus. Ya' know?

I'm going to turn my humidifier up.

Christine L wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:39 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:15 pm

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:50 pm

They say that humidification helps reduce vulnerability to upper respiratory infections. I got so used to sleeping without humidification when my first CPAP humidifier crapped out (known issue with PRS1's) that I never use humidification any more. I guess I better start.

Which could potentially be helpful should a sars-cov-2 shedding person wander by the cpap intake while you're sleeping.

There will be CPAPers sleeping in a household where there is a person with corona virus. Ya' know?

I'm going to turn my humidifier up.

I'm moving! Jim

Maybe to China, pkenty of room, lots of American Jobs!

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:15 pm

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:50 pm

They say that humidification helps reduce vulnerability to upper respiratory infections. I got so used to sleeping without humidification when my first CPAP humidifier crapped out (known issue with PRS1's) that I never use humidification any more. I guess I better start.

Which could potentially be helpful should a sars-cov-2 shedding person wander by the cpap intake while you're sleeping.

But nice, moist mucosa in the nostrils will reduce the likelihood of upper respiratory infection. If you live where there's low humidity, getting that humidity all night is a good thing, even if the viral exposure happens at another point in the day. Because I rarely use humidification, my nasal passages tend to be too dry and sometimes I have little sores. (Yes, the obvious solution would be to fill my humidifier tank and use it, but I've fallen out of that routine).

Janknitz wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:52 pm

. . . but I've fallen out of that routine.

It's the nail.

Please go dust off that humidifier tank and fill it right this minute.

We need you around here.

No need to worry about Covid19. I've looked at the data and there's no avoiding it. Might as well settle in and enjoy the ride.

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:47 pm

No need to worry about Covid19. I've looked at the data and there's no avoiding it. Might as well settle in and enjoy the ride.

unless one wants to go full prepper route, i agree with you.

(narrators voice: zonker doesn't wish to go full prepper.)

Is Covid-19 a product of evolution or a weapon?
If that, who would benefit by creating it?
Oh, that's right--the world has plenty of candidates . . .
So many candidates . . .

Covid-19 is nothing to panic about, CPAP or not.
So far 9 Americans have died of it.
As of today 6,758 Americans have died through gun violence this year, and roughly 647,000 will die from heart disease this year.
I'd be more worried about not getting shot and eating well.

SleepyPaolo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:10 am

Covid-19 is nothing to panic about, CPAP or not.
So far 9 Americans have died of it.
As of today 6,758 Americans have died through gun violence this year, and roughly 647,000 will die from heart disease this year.
I'd be more worried about not getting shot and eating well.

More importantly, over 18,000 have already died from the flu, this year, in the USA.

Also, COVID-19 is the *disease*, SARS-COV-2 is the virus.

Really, holy shit! Quite a few have died of 'normal' flu here in Australia too.

SleepyPaolo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:34 am

Really, holy shit! Quite a few have died of 'normal' flu here in Australia too.

Blue box full of text near the top: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

SleepyPaolo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:10 am

Covid-19 is nothing to panic about, CPAP or not.
So far 9 Americans have died of it.
As of today 6,758 Americans have died through gun violence this year, and roughly 647,000 will die from heart disease this year.
I'd be more worried about not getting shot and eating well.

Hmmmm. Well one Harvard study is predicting that 40%-70% of the world population will contract the virus. And the WHO is reporting the death rate to be 3.4% of all infected individuals. So if that gets extrapolated... I'm borrowing all these numbers from a post elsewhere...

US Population = 350 million
# Infected at 40% = 140 million; @ 70% = 254 million
# Dead at 3.4%: 4.76 - 8.63 million

If that's overestimated by even as much as a factor of 10, that's still going to be a crazy high number. And the death rate alone I don't think is underestimated. Again, pulling from numbers posted elsewhere, the global death rate may be @ 3.4%, but the rate in China is 2% (assuming you trust their reporting at this stage), which means the rate elsewhere in the world is higher than 3.4% to make up for it. Here in the U.S., based on the number of confirmed cases, the death rate is 7.6% (9 out of 118 cases). To be honest, for the overwhelming majority of people, this thing will amount little more than a minor inconvenience... a few days with flu-like symptoms and downtime. But it's the elderly and people otherwise in poor health who are vulnerable that need to be worried and those of us who are not in poor health or elderly should be worried for them and be prepared to take appropriate precautions for their sake. When I catch this bug, I'll survive the experience, but if I pass it on to my in-laws, they may not.

SleepyPaolo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:10 am

Covid-19 is nothing to panic about

True. But which diseases ARE something to panic about, then? Panic may not be helpful as a reaction to any medical circumstance, but the problem is that the attempted suppression of public panic cannot occur without simultaneously suppressing information needed for good decision-making by the public. If you make your message loud enough to be heard by those who need to hear it, human panic is an unfortunate but expected side effect. If a virus is spreading fast, if the spread is virtually unstoppable, if it can be fatal for a significant segment of the population, and if there is no effective treatment available, comparisons with other health issues on the panic scale are not meaningful in context, it seems to me. The reason for particular concern is the need to slow things down enough to keep the medical infrastructure from becoming overwhelmed to the extent that other medical emergencies can't be responded to effectively. People will die from diseases for which there IS effective treatment if the medical facilities are inundated all at once. Prioritizing medical care is impossible in the midst of sudden needs simultaneously everywhere. So a little pre-panic may help alleviate the coming all-out panic that seems to be looming. An early controlled explosion may be easier to manage than the sudden catastrophic explosion that would occur if everyone ignored the warning signs we have now and just let it play out unhindered everywhere at the same time with no changes in behavior by anyone.

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:22 am

Also, COVID-19 is the *disease*, SARS-COV-2 is the virus.

As true as that is, and as useful a distinction as it may be for researchers and clinicians, it isn't a very useful distinction, in my opinion, in the vernacular, since it appears to be possible for someone who is asymptomatic to spread infection. Someone with the virus present does not really need to be distinguished from someone experiencing an active disease state--at least in public discussions when informing the public of precautionary measures--at least until more is known about patterns and variations in the spread of the virus. Does someone who is asymptomatic but tests positive for the virus "have COVID-19"? If he has the ability to infect someone else, which apparently he does, it is best for the public to file him under 'has the disease,' even if technically he does not.

Lifeisabeach wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:26 am

death rate to be

Meaningful tool in some circumstances for purposes of general categorizations, but mostly meaningless as far as categorizing the early stages of a situation in which asymptomatic people with the virus will never be tested for it despite their apparent ability to pass it on to those who may die from a reaction to it, because of there being no proven treatment. In other words, the lack of testing of the asymptomatic makes the present understanding of "rates" little more than ballpark guesstimates of what the situation is or will be in mapping the spread of the virus (as opposed to comparing a map [or measurement] of those with severe reactions to the virus against a map [or measurement] of those dying from it). And again, the lack of proven treatment is what makes the situation different from diseases for which effective treatment is available.

Those are nothing more than my personal opinions as a layman on matters about which I am not an expert.