I'd guess I'm on my fourth year with my current one, myself.
Resmed says SoClean is bad
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-Jeff (AS10/P30i)
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
I'm thinking maybe Pugsy wouldn't recommend that for heated hoses.
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
That is not how you heat them?
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
I think I killed my previous ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet using an Ozone Cleaner similar to the SoClean.
It developed the noisy pump symptoms (as mentioned by the ResMed warning) after just 9 months, having been "sanitized" weekly using a small Ozone cleaner by ResComf.
Luckily my CPAP machine was replaced for a new one free of charge by the good old NHS over here in the UK.
I have now binned the Ozone Cleaner obviously
( I still think that the ozone was killing any bacteria etc in the hose and machine as it is advertised to do, and is safe for the user, as any residual ozone disappears within minutes, well before using the machine again. However, the fact that it destroys your CPAP machine at the same time is a pretty good reason to not use it ).
It developed the noisy pump symptoms (as mentioned by the ResMed warning) after just 9 months, having been "sanitized" weekly using a small Ozone cleaner by ResComf.
Luckily my CPAP machine was replaced for a new one free of charge by the good old NHS over here in the UK.
I have now binned the Ozone Cleaner obviously
( I still think that the ozone was killing any bacteria etc in the hose and machine as it is advertised to do, and is safe for the user, as any residual ozone disappears within minutes, well before using the machine again. However, the fact that it destroys your CPAP machine at the same time is a pretty good reason to not use it ).
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
For those without a blowtorch and an asbestos-based soft-bristled cleaning brush, I guess so. Just be sure to keep any running SoClean at least four feet away during blowtorch use if it is still under warranty. The blowtorch, I mean. SoClean can damage blowtorches.
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- loggerhead12
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
Only SoClean ozone - Resmed ozone is good for your xPAP.Wulfman... wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:41 amYou're dreaming! ResMed wouldn't want the headaches of the warranty repair expenses cutting into their profits.ImRealPleezApproveMe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:36 amSoClean has really grown recently. I would bet Resmed is looking at those dollars and wanting them. It's a power marketing move worthy of Microsoft. It's how I'd do it.
In case you can't read........Ozone is BAD for the machines because it DAMAGES them!
You know it.ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:50 pmYou jumped right to a conspiracy theory, didn't you?ImRealPleezApproveMe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:10 amWhat's the appropriate waiting time after this announcement for Resmed to come out with their own xPAP cleaning device, fully approved by Resmed and which will, of course, not void the warranty?
Re: SoClean says Resmed is bad
It is impossible for the public to believe anything that fails to include at least one or two good conspiracy theories, plausible or not.
And all these blasted SoClean detractors really have a way of sucking all the activated oxygen right out of a room.
And all these blasted SoClean detractors really have a way of sucking all the activated oxygen right out of a room.
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
It's a technique I got from an appliance repair person, when they were out replacing the door seal in my new freezer... the new seal was shipped folded up in a little box, and wouldn't fit at all. We tossed it into the dryer for a couple minutes, and it was soft and pliable, and all the kinks were gone.
So, I tried it on one of those horrible stiff new cpap hoses, gave it about a minute, and it was still full of kinks another 30 seconds and it had softened up. it happens fast, so keep eye on it.
I'm pretty sure I remember somebody doing it on a heated hose, I think they wrapped a washcloth around the ends to protect them.
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
Is that what passes for humor where you're from?
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
You *think* it did something, but have zero evidence of that, you think it's safe, but have no evidence of that either.JeffHarnett wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:44 am( I still think that the ozone was killing any bacteria etc in the hose and machine as it is advertised to do, and is safe for the user, as any residual ozone disappears within minutes, well before using the machine again. However, the fact that it destroys your CPAP machine at the same time is a pretty good reason to not use it ).
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
THANKS a lot, I just wasted 20 minutes reading up on the effects of ozone on hydrocarbon combustion. hrmph.jnk... wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:55 amFor those without a blowtorch and an asbestos-based soft-bristled cleaning brush, I guess so. Just be sure to keep any running SoClean at least four feet away during blowtorch use if it is still under warranty. The blowtorch, I mean. SoClean can damage blowtorches.
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
Since there is no "Resmed ozone", I have no idea what you're blabbering about.ImRealPleezApproveMe wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:35 amOnly SoClean ozone - Resmed ozone is good for your xPAP.Wulfman... wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:41 amYou're dreaming! ResMed wouldn't want the headaches of the warranty repair expenses cutting into their profits.ImRealPleezApproveMe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:36 amSoClean has really grown recently. I would bet Resmed is looking at those dollars and wanting them. It's a power marketing move worthy of Microsoft. It's how I'd do it.
In case you can't read........Ozone is BAD for the machines because it DAMAGES them!
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Re: SoClean says ResMed is bad
Over my head. But . . .. . . the effects of ozone on hydrocarbon combustion.
Not sure if that applies to any upcoming ResMed-branded ozone.Oxidation with ozone evolves more heat and usually ignites at a lower temperature than oxidising with oxygen. Ozone reacts with non-saturated organic compounds to produce ozonides, which are unstable and may decompose with explosive violence. Ozone is an unstable gas that, at normal temperatures, decomposes to biatomic oxygen. At elevated temperatures and in presence of certain catalysts such as hydrogen, iron, copper and chromium, this decomposition may be explosive. - https://www.ozonetech.com/ozone-safety
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
SoClean promotes OCD--maybe even CAUSES IT!
(Or did nobody notice?)
In other words: "stay away from soclean--it will give you OCD,
a mental disorder that will ruin your life and drive away friends and family."
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(Or did nobody notice?)
In other words: "stay away from soclean--it will give you OCD,
a mental disorder that will ruin your life and drive away friends and family."
(This public service message has been provided free of charge .)
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Re: Resmed says SoClean is bad
My opinion is to use it on disposals if you are worried about germs. Don't use it on the PAP's at all. I have a Respironics Dreamstation blower chamber the customer used ozone every day on, it turned the foam to a sticky tar like substance. Much like the person ordering a 1/4 pounder with cheese & a diet coke, there are customers who buy the ozone cleaners and bring their PAP's in because the filters are so dirty it effects the machines. Worried about germs in the actual PAP, keep the filters clean and keep water from back flushing into the machine.
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