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Exactly Zonker, and for me it least it's consistently reduced my overall apnea load. Of course LIkely I'll always be on the mask, but just sleeping through the night is great. I suggest just buying black pepper corns, 2 orders of magnitude cheaper then buying curcumin with piperine.

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:11 pm

Exactly Zonker, and for me it least it's consistently reduced my overall apnea load. Of course LIkely I'll always be on the mask, but just sleeping through the night is great. I suggest just buying black pepper corns, 2 orders of magnitude cheaper then buying curcumin with piperine.

This is interesting! How much do you take, approximately?

2 pills of these https://www.amazon.com/Himalaya-Turmeri ... 4&sr=8-198 at night with 10 black pepper corns,
and 1 scoop of this in the morninghttps://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Organics-Rec ... 135&sr=8-5


Heres a similar pill at a good price if you want to bypass pepper corns: https://www.amazon.com/Turmeric-Bioperi ... 94&sr=8-41



Here's a good article about dosage. the Arthritis one is for inflamation so that one makes sense. Note that's the extract - curcumin not tumeric. Note the warning against low blood sugar for diabetes is only because it makes your blood sugars better so you might not need as much insulin.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/tu ... 't-take-it

nicholasjh1 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:11 pm

Exactly Zonker, and for me it least it's consistently reduced my overall apnea load. Of course LIkely I'll always be on the mask, but just sleeping through the night is great. I suggest just buying black pepper corns, 2 orders of magnitude cheaper then buying curcumin with piperine.

thanks for this and the follow up post with nee.

Dang, I stopped by work briefly on my day off and got talked into working for 6 hours. Now I will post some charts. Pugsy I'm thinking you are right on several different things causing arousals which add up to be a significant pain in the butt. I'm remembering around 6-10 per night but looking at flow rate I'm seeing much more than that. We are sounding pretty similar.

It looks like and seems like and maybe waking do to a number of things including: breathing disturbances, pain, body temp, room temp, eating certain foods, REM awakenings, maybe outside disturbances, cpap equipment annoyance, and most of all I wake up not knowing why which brought me to look more into flow rate charts.

This didn't use to bother me but starting to see a pattern of not sleeping well with eating these foods around dinner time. Pizza, cookies and soda. My poor sister has a chocolate sensitivity. Makes her feel bad. I haven't been strong enough to test that one. lol

Probably also time to study up on sleep maintenance again and see what I missed.

It seems the leak rate chart is a good indicator of how erratic things are. It looks like the leak rate changes with irregular breathing, pressure changes and body movements.

I'm having a hard time deciding where to zoom in on the flow rate chart and post images. I cant show it all and there is so much throughout the whole night that doesn't look normal. Figured I'd use the Jan 28th night that I posted earlier for further reference because it's pretty typical night.

I get quite a few of these through the night. breathing is real shallow or flat lines but not long enough to get flagged. Pretty sure they aren't much to worry about as long as it doesn't cause arousal. Machine finally decides to bump up the pressure for a while.

Chart #3

This looks like an awake period that got flagged with a couple OA's. Machine increased the pressure. On the right not sure what that is will zoom it.

Chart #4

Zoomed in on the right disturbance. Looks like shallow breathing and awakening. Flat lined a bit. Not sure if breathing caused the awakening or if the whole period is being awake starting with the shallow breathing.

Chart #5

What do you make of stuff like this? Arousals or asleep? I see a lot of it. Definitely not normal. Probably not concerning.

Chart #6

I see this pretty often where breathing flat lines before the arousal. I wonder if the flat line causes arousal or if I hold my breath upon awakening.

Chart #7

Definite normal breathing followed by an arousal there on the right. I skipped a lot of things and only made it halfway through the night with the charts I've posted. There is a ton more going on the second half of the night.

Chart #8

Definite obstructive. Normal breathing followed by 10 seconds or more of flat line.

Chart #9

Looks like flat line that wasn't long enough to get flagged but caused arousal none the less.

Chart #10

I see this breathing pattern a fair amount. No idea whats going on there. Some crazy stuff. That's why I wish I had more details for interpretation. Could it be gasping?

Chart #11