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palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:42 pm

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:23 pm

Anyway I'll probably just lie and say it just stopped working.

That says all that needs to be said about you.

Hopefully they'll call you on it, since it will be obvious that you broke it.

Unlike you I am not on government assistance. I can afford to buy a new one.

Enough with the personal comments which I don't feel were meant as compliments.
Back on topic please.

Accidents are usually not covered by health insurance, but sometimes by your
homeowners or renters insurance.
Insurance companies call it abuse--(how obtuse of them.)
Hose management (hanging it up) can prevent future mishaps.
Of course, insurance may not cover a hose hanger--that would be too logical.

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:46 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:42 pm

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:23 pm

Anyway I'll probably just lie and say it just stopped working.

That says all that needs to be said about you.

Hopefully they'll call you on it, since it will be obvious that you broke it.

Unlike you I am not on government assistance. I can afford to buy a new one.

I've bought quite a few pap machines, plain, auto, bilevel, ASVs, even a lab machine. I've paid *cash* for every single one of them.

No 'government assistance'.

Own up to your mistakes.

Too many people assume that everybody else us "on the dole".
The truth is that the trough has gotten smaller and smaller,
so the only hogs really wallowing in it are the big ones. (Corporate)
The runts (really deserving/needy) don't have a chance.

back in the late 90's to early aughts i worked for Sony Service Center. this was directly owned by Sony America and as such, the repair technicians were trained by Sony and used only Sony parts. there were, of course, "authorized" service shops where the repair people weren't bound by that.

i hasten to add i wasn't a tech. i was the public facing admin. we had quit a bit of foot traffic as well has units shipped in. my job was to contact the customer if shipped in or speak to them when it was brought in to the counter.

i used to like to tell them that someone was going to pay for this repair. if it was something that happened within the first three months, well happy days! Sony would pay for it. if it was something that happened after three months but before twelve months, well the parts were covered but the labor not. if it was outside of twelve months, we had a flat repair rate for each individual item.

BUT i made sure that they knew that if the item was abused (i.e. physically damaged) all bets were off. we could take the unit in for evaluation of cost of repair. that eval was a flat twenty five bucks, nonrefundable. THEN we would contact the customer telling them what it would cost to repair. that broke out to be cost of labor plus cost of parts.

you be surprised at how many folks flat lied about this. which is stupid. the tech could SEE the physical damage upon evaluation. we admin were warned that video cameras were particularly susceptible to abuse, particularly on the beach. moisture! sand! dropping the damned thing! whatever.

but one time someone came in and SWORE they had never abused their video camera. but they had a video tape stuck in the camera and could we get it out? surely. and upon getting the tape out, the tech played it back. guess what? the point of view from the camera was it hovering over water while shooting diving going on below. and then the point of view of the camera falling into the water! that constituted abuse, sorry to say.

now i have no idea how a cpap warranty works or if a technician ever looks at it. but believe me, if they see it, they'll know it.

My old cellphone had a moisture-sensor on the battery, sensitive enough to turn color in my POCKET.
It voided the warranty.
"Warranties" any more only LIMIT liability, specifying what is NOT covered.
Add-on warranties are rarely worth the money. I avoid them.
I also avoid brands that die prematurely on me.
The added coverage usually lock you into the same rotten junk that failed.
Luckily, my Resmed machines have been consistently reliable.

How can I prevent this from happening again, especially when staying in a hotel..?

This also made me realize I need a backup unit. Do most people with backups have a device identical to their daily driver? Or something like a travel unit?

Sorry for all the the questions.

I pack hair scrunchies and duck tape in my luggage.
I thread the hose through a couple scrunchies and tape them to the headboard.
That way my hose is up and out of the way, and not pulling on my machine.
The first time, I did not, but I found the scrunchies and tape at the nearest dollar store.
Upon leaving, I carefully peeled the tape off--no damage.

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:25 pm

This also made me realize I need a backup unit. Do most people with backups have a device identical to their daily driver? Or something like a travel unit?

Sorry for all the the questions.

Identical is good, because all the parts are interchangeable.
But it is not mandatory. Your backup can be a used, or even older unit.

Is this some type of newbie mistake? I have been googling and see nightstands specifically for CPAP machines, hose holders etc.
Do most people use these accessories?

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:33 pm

Is this some type of newbie mistake? I have been googling and see nightstands specifically for CPAP machines, hose holders etc.
Do most people use these accessories?

I, personally, have a 10 foot hose. Since my bed is 6 feet wide, I'd run out of hose before running out of bed.

Bubba1 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:33 pm

Is this some type of newbie mistake? I have been googling and see nightstands specifically for CPAP machines, hose holders etc.
Do most people use these accessories?

For a lot of people it's a non-issue, but for active sleepers like you, it certainly can be. I now use a hose hanger, but before that, I would use a safety pin to fasten the hose cover to my bottom sheet, to protect the machine from tugs. (In my case, I'm not a particularly active sleeper, but I'm a very active worrier!)

I put little rubber stick on the bottom on my device, stopped it from sliding around.


Since moving to the top connect of the P30i, a lot of extra hose, no tugging on machine at all.