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Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:05 am
by Dog Slobber
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
And I don't want to cause any permanent damage to my lungs. Just curious if anyone knows about that or experienced that and I dont mean to scare anyone. Thank you.
CPAP does not cause damage to lungs.
If you don't want to scare anyone, stop making up crap.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:27 am
by babydinosnoreless
If anything, IMO, obstructive sleep apnea is what causes the weight gain in the first place. There are normal and tiny people that have it. It is rare for someone who loses weight to get off the machine. It does happen but more likely than not you will be on it for life. I've lost about 45lbs since being on pap therapy and am still losing weight although at a much slower rate than at first. My OSA is still very much active. With pap I have more energy to participate in activities and less desire to be sucking down soda or sugary snacks for the energy boost.
As for long term damage from the machine... How ? It is not a ventilator breathing for you it is just responding to your own breathing patterns. My understanding is that is no different that wearing a pair of prescription eye glasses, it corrects your breathing when using it.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:47 am
by ChicagoGranny
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
Could this be bad for your lungs, like maybe training them to be weak?
Hell no.
With CPAP, the only thing bad for your lungs is not using CPAP.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:55 pm
by palerider
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
Hey,
I haven't had time to pull out the chip yet
It *LITERALLY* takes less time than it took you to type the following paragraph.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
but just had a question after wearing last night. I'm actually able to sleep on my back now which is great but I guess since I haven't slept in this position in so long, I feel like I never really get into a deep sleep.
You can't "feel" sleep stages.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
So after about two hours, I turned over to my stomach. I don't snore really on my stomach so I removed the mask.
Quite foolish. Snoring is not an essential part of sleep disturbed breathing, it's just one component.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
Has anyone else experienced this? Could this be bad for your lungs, like maybe training them to be weak?
Are eyeglasses "training" your eyes to be weak? no?
SAME WITH CPAP.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
During normal breathing with the mask, I assume when you're sleeping, you're not fully exhaling all the time because of the pressure coming at you constantly.
The pressure is so tiny, a fraction of one PSI, not even enough to blow up a balloon.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
The reason I ask this is because I'm overweight and I know that has a lot to do with my sleep apnea.
Not necessarily, however, obesity hypoventilation is a thing that overweight people frequently have.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
So if possible, i don't plan to use this machine forever since I'm on a plan to losing weight.
Good luck with that, some people who lose weight need MORE cpap pressure. CPAP being a fat old man thing is an outmoded ides.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
And I don't want to cause any permanent damage to my lungs.
Then use your cpap, because NOT using it will damaged your organs, brain, and body. You'd be better off if you quit looking for excuses.
Johnds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am
Just curious if anyone knows about that or experienced that and I dont mean to scare anyone. Thank you.
Your erroneous suppositions don't scare anybody.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:31 pm
by chunkyfrog
1: turn up your starting pressure.
2: get professional help for your anxiety.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:18 pm
by Janknitz
Johnds:
The System One REMstar Auto A flex is an older machine, it's been replaced by a newer model for several years now. Did you buy it new, or obtain a used one?
The reason this is important is that there is a known manufacturer's defect with the humidifier. It doesn't heat much to begin with, and tends to fail completely at some point (mine did at about the 3 year mark). This doesn't affect the performance of the CPAP, other than the fact that you are only getting "passover" humidification and it's NEVER warm air. It was always frigid and cold going into the mask and coming out. You may perceive that the air is warm in the mask, but the pressurized air going out the vent is always ice cold--very nice in summer, a misery in winter. So your assumption that CO2 is not clearing isn't correct based on the temperature of the vented air. Your humidifier may or may not be working, though. It's inefficient at best when it does work on that model.
I have a ResMed now and the difference is night and day. If I turn up the temperature on the ResMed, I get warm air going in and not so cold air (I wouldn't call it warm) going out.
Every mask, by design, has an efficient CO2 vent. Otherwise a lot of us would be long dead.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:20 am
by Johnds
Thank you.
I'm looking into buying the Bleep. I see what some are talking about with marks on your face and bags under eyes from straps. Anyway, I see this Bleep on Amazon. Is this just the stick one for the nose? Do I need the other attachment that hooks onto these?
Bleep Dreamports (32 Count Box)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R5PTJ2W/re ... fEbZ2CHZVV
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:30 am
by Pugsy
Johnds wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:20 am
Thank you.
I'm looking into buying the Bleep. I see what some are talking about with marks on your face and bags under eyes from straps. Anyway, I see this Bleep on Amazon. Is this just the stick one for the nose? Do I need the other attachment that hooks onto these?
Bleep Dreamports (32 Count Box)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R5PTJ2W/re ... fEbZ2CHZVV
Yes, you need the hose/frame interface part of the Bleep as well as the ports.
https://www.1800cpap.com/bleep-dreampor ... erface-kit
This part will last forever with common sense care. I am still using the first one I got over a year ago.
If you end up not liking the shorter hose there are options available in terms of taking a longer short hose from another mask and attaching it to the DreamWay section that the ports attach to.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:36 am
by Johnds
Hey thanks for the link. Just curious if this is the same thing?
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/bleep- ... -cpap-mask
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:40 am
by Johnds
Hey thanks for the link. Just curious if this is the same thing?
One says model# 100380
https://www.1800cpap.com/bleep-dreampor ... erface-kit
The other model# 100381
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/bleep- ... -cpap-mask
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:44 am
by Pugsy
It is the same product but the cpap.com package includes 2 weeks worth of the stick on ports. It's a trial starter kit of sorts.
Cpap.com doesn't offer the hose/frame interface thing just by itself which is why I pointed you to 1800cpap....they offer it and don't require a RX to sell it.
Complete mask packages require a RX to be on file at cpap.com.
Replacement parts don't require a RX but doesn't help you if they don't offer it.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:46 am
by Johnds
Pugsy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:44 am
It is the same product but the cpap.com package includes 2 weeks worth of the stick on ports. It's a trial starter kit of sorts.
Cpap.com doesn't offer the hose/frame interface thing just by itself which is why I pointed you to 1800cpap....they offer it and don't require a RX to sell it.
Complete mask packages require a RX to be on file at cpap.com.
Replacement parts don't require a RX but doesn't help you if they don't offer it.
Thank you!
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:13 pm
by Dreaming1
You can find the bleep mask and first batch of ports online for less than $75, if you look around. Plus add in coupon codes, etc.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:33 am
by Johnds
I ordered the Bleep. I'm so glad I did. I'm tired of looking like Rocky in the morning when I look in the mirror.
My teeth hurt in the morning. I think it's because my tongue is pushing against them all night from the pressure. Anyone notice that? When I push my tongue against my teeth or suck my teeth they feel sore after I wake up.
Re: Is there a mask with a decent enough check valve to release your exhale?
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:43 am
by Pugsy
The pressure can't move the tongue or force the tongue to do anything.
I know you think the pressure is hurricane force winds but even at the max setting it can't even blow up a balloon.
If the teeth are sore....most likely from the mask or mask straps putting too much pressure on the teeth. The mask is simply too tight.
This is the most common error that people make in an effort to manage leaks. These masks don't have to be vise tight to keep from leaking and in fact most of the time too tight actually causes leaks more because the masks need to inflate to seal and when too tight they can't inflate.
I have been using cpap for over 10 years now....my teeth have never been sore and they haven't moved either.