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jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:43 pm

Some do better on one brand over another, no doubt. But getting full data and getting the right mask are, to me, much more important for most than which brand of blower is being used, when it comes to plain vanilla OSA.

Hey, just me.

That seems to makes the most sense. Find what suits you best. Thats what I am doing.

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:46 pm

jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:43 pm

Some do better on one brand over another, no doubt. But getting full data and getting the right mask are, to me, much more important for most than which brand of blower is being used, when it comes to plain vanilla OSA.

Hey, just me.

That seems to makes the most sense. Find what suits you best. Thats what I am doing.

And this forum exists to be of help to you with that.

But just so you know, if one of my family members asks me my opinion on which brand to buy, I will tend to push toward one particular brand.

And that brand is, . . . Toyota.

Or maybe Subaru if far enough above the Mason Dixon.

Reliability is just waaay more important than . . .

Oh, wait. Wrong forum. Sorry.

jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:51 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:46 pm

jnk... wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:43 pm

Some do better on one brand over another, no doubt. But getting full data and getting the right mask are, to me, much more important for most than which brand of blower is being used, when it comes to plain vanilla OSA.

Hey, just me.

That seems to makes the most sense. Find what suits you best. Thats what I am doing.

And this forum exists to be of help to you with that.

But just so you know, if one of my family members asks me my opinion on which brand to buy, I will tend to push toward one particular brand.

And that brand is, . . . Toyota.

Or maybe Subaru if far enough above the Mason Dixon.

Reliability is just more important than . . .

Oh, wait. Wrong forum. Sorry.

Of course!! How can you beat Toyota?

But yes reliability has to be high on anyones list. This whole process is just overwhelming to say the least. There is just so many factors that can go into a good nights sleep or not.

I’ve used both Dreamstation and the auto set. I much prefer the auto set because it ramps a lot faster when you need it. And all the extra bells and whistles gives it that slight edge too

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:17 pm

Most people stick with the first brand they ever had.
(Ford/Chevy preferences run in families.)
Likewise, Apple gave hundreds of computers to SCHOOLS--it was brilliant!
Many of these people became Apple cult members for life.
The same brand loyalty exists for many xpap users.

Although I have admittedly limited data points, I question the brand loyalty argument.
My son has a Dreamstation, but when he tried out my ResMed he preferred it. My son is a bit of a completed case because he has multiple health issues, but on nights when he has used my ResMed his numbers have been a bit better. I am a simpler case, the difference between my numbers on the ResMed and Respironics are negligible, but personally i find the ResMed more comfortable.

Anyway my advise to anyone looking at buying a machine is the ResMed is far superior to the Dreamstation.

An interesting data point, I have noticed that all commenters who have tried both machines seem to recommend ResMed.

As far as the OP’s question of which machine is better, does anyone who has used both the Airsense 10 and the Dreamstation prefer the Dreamstation?

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Is that so? Why I have I not had over 1 AHI in auto mode with an 8 hour sleep session then?

Because your minimum pressure is high enough.

I've only used ResMed and am very happy with it.

Having said that, when looking at others people data in an effort to help them with their therapy, ResMed presents the data far better than Respironics.

Respironics' Flow Rate trace almost always presents as a Hot Mess, cluttered with so much event flags, the important ones are just lost.

VS2 - useless and clutters things up.
FL - Should not be presented as binary event flags, the graph presented with ResMed is so much cleaner and intuitive. Very easy to see relationships between FL and pressure rises.
VS - Once again presenting as event flags clutters up the Flow Rate a separate graph is so much more intuitive.
Shark Fin pressure pulses that repeatedly show up in the pressure graph, distracting.

ResMed charts are so much more intuitive with data presented in more logical and easy to follow.

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Is that so? Why I have I not had over 1 AHI in auto mode with an 8 hour sleep session then?

Because your minimum pressure is high enough.

Isn’t that the entire purpose of the therapy? To get your minimum and max pressure right?

I am confused as to how me using the ResMed would change my therapy at all.

Maybe you would not be making statements like this:

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:37 pm

Here’s to hoping I can get more than 5 hours of sleep soon!

by Brounmoney » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:53 pm
Only a month into therapy and still struggling to sleep, but not sure how much that has to do with me, the machine, or the mask. To my knowledge though, the machine is working as it should.

Or maybe not.

JPB

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:22 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Is that so? Why I have I not had over 1 AHI in auto mode with an 8 hour sleep session then?

Because your minimum pressure is high enough.

Isn’t that the entire purpose of the therapy? To get your minimum and max pressure right?

I am confused as to how me using the ResMed would change my therapy at all.

Maybe it wouldn't, but *MANY* people find they don't need as high a minimum pressure with a Resmed, because it's more responsive to their changing needs.

jimbud wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:54 pm

Maybe you would not be making statements like this:

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:37 pm

Here’s to hoping I can get more than 5 hours of sleep soon!

by Brounmoney » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:53 pm
Only a month into therapy and still struggling to sleep, but not sure how much that has to do with me, the machine, or the mask. To my knowledge though, the machine is working as it should.

Or maybe not.

JPB

5 hours of sleep has nothing to do with the machine. I have been a light sleeper for a very long time, and adjusting to wearing a mask is the issue.

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:51 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:22 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Is that so? Why I have I not had over 1 AHI in auto mode with an 8 hour sleep session then?

Because your minimum pressure is high enough.

Isn’t that the entire purpose of the therapy? To get your minimum and max pressure right?

I am confused as to how me using the ResMed would change my therapy at all.

Maybe it wouldn't, but *MANY* people find they don't need as high a minimum pressure with a Resmed, because it's more responsive to their changing needs.

Real question. How does a lower minimum number help? 9 is plenty comfortable for me, and I have no issues falling asleep at that pressure.

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:28 am

Real question. How does a lower minimum number help? 9 is plenty comfortable for me, and I have no issues falling asleep at that pressure.

When I first came here and to another apnea forum for advice, a question that more seasoned users often asked was: "How do you feel?" If you're feeling better with therapy, then it's working. It seems that some of the discussion in this thread has to do more with how OSCAR interprets the data. SleepyHead was more geared to ResMed machines, so a common complaint was that SleepyHead data was harder to interpret for Respironics machines. I have not tried OSCAR, but it sounds like it is also geared more to ResMed machines. Just my two cents worth.

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:51 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:22 pm

palerider wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:44 pm

Is that so? Why I have I not had over 1 AHI in auto mode with an 8 hour sleep session then?

Because your minimum pressure is high enough.

Isn’t that the entire purpose of the therapy? To get your minimum and max pressure right?

I am confused as to how me using the ResMed would change my therapy at all.

Maybe it wouldn't, but *MANY* people find they don't need as high a minimum pressure with a Resmed, because it's more responsive to their changing needs.

So my DreamStation look pretty proactive last night, ramping up the pressure before an event happened. The issue being, it still didn't stop me from waking up and taking the mask off. It seems like the machine was doing its job, but the result from me aren't there. Do a Resmed machine help that at all? What could it have done differently? I feel like you want the pressure to go up to keep events from happening, which from my eye seems like that's what the DreamStation is doing.

Bertha deBlues wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:26 am

Brounmoney wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:28 am

Real question. How does a lower minimum number help? 9 is plenty comfortable for me, and I have no issues falling asleep at that pressure.

When I first came here and to another apnea forum for advice, a question that more seasoned users often asked was: "How do you feel?" If you're feeling better with therapy, then it's working. It seems that some of the discussion in this thread has to do more with how OSCAR interprets the data. SleepyHead was more geared to ResMed machines, so a common complaint was that SleepyHead data was harder to interpret for Respironics machines. I have not tried OSCAR, but it sounds like it is also geared more to ResMed machines. Just my two cents worth.

Yeah I think the therapy is more about how I feel, and I have only gotten 2 nights in a month that I wake up more refreshed then I have in a long time. I dont think for me its the machine, but just me not being use to the process. I feel like the machine is working as it should.

And you may be right about OSCAR. I am pretty new to it all, but I do feel it does give me some good info.