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Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:15 pm
by palerider
oldmobie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:54 am
palerider wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:09 pm
oldmobie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:54 pm
I've never had a BIPAP before,
And you don't have one now.... you've got a VPAP.
Oops! The only categories I was aware of were CPAP BiPAP and AutoPAP. One more thing I'm learning today.
"BiPAP" is a registered trademark of Philips Respironics for their bilevel machines.
"VPAP" is a registered trademark of Resmed for their bilevel machines.
There are two broad categories of machine, cpap, and bilevel, whereas cpap has one pressure (with some pressure relief) and bilevel, which as different pressures for inhale and exhale.
There are various different types of cpap, (including autocpap, or apap) and many more types of bilevel, from the simple S machine up to highly computerized and automatic machines that monitor and change for every breath.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:56 pm
by oldmobie
I feel like I slept decently again, until I got a mask leak that woke me up. According to OSCAR, my AHI was 20.92. (I read about the other numbers being more useful. So:
Clear Airway: 0.00
Obstructive: 13.02
Unclassified Apnea: 0.46
Hypopnea: 7.44)
As recommended above, I took a look at the Insp. Time chart. Not that I really know how to use the info. Looks like the inspiration time went up and down all night, but mostly within a span between .5 - 1.5 seconds. Just a few outliers, one at .39 and 3 approaching 2 seconds. And one window of ~50 minutes that shows up on almost all the charts, when all inspirations were within about ¼ second of one another in duration. Seems to correspond to my highest apneas or worst leak(s). I know how to do screenshots, so I can upload anything you folks would like to see. Barring that, I'll keep exporting to the PC weekly and leave settings alone until I have enough data points to look for trends.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:59 pm
by zonker
oldmobie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:56 pm
I feel like I slept decently again, until I got a mask leak that woke me up. According to OSCAR, my AHI was 20.92.
if you don't mind a suggestion, it would help you to learn and would help your therapy if you could post the charts here for the experts to see. that way, they could give specific advice pertinent to what your charts say.
in any event, good luck!
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:40 pm
by Cruiser1234
That's a great find! I guess the upgrade will be worth it for $19.99
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:46 pm
by zonker
Cruiser1234 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:40 pm
That's a great find! I guess the upgrade will be worth it for $19.99
uh, what?
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:54 pm
by Pugsy
zonker wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:46 pm
Cruiser1234 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:40 pm
That's a great find! I guess the upgrade will be worth it for $19.99
uh, what?
First post by the OP about his "new" used machine. He found it at a thrift store.
Yesterday I found a Resmed S9 VPAP S in a thrift store. Marked $19.99, we applied a 20% discount and got it for ~$16. Only thing I've found wrong is the humidifier water tank is missing.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:57 pm
by zonker
Pugsy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:54 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:46 pm
Cruiser1234 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:40 pm
That's a great find! I guess the upgrade will be worth it for $19.99
uh, what?
First post by the OP about his "new" used machine. He found it at a thrift store.
Yesterday I found a Resmed S9 VPAP S in a thrift store. Marked $19.99, we applied a 20% discount and got it for ~$16. Only thing I've found wrong is the humidifier water tank is missing.
oh. reading comprehension skills...how does that work?
not to mention
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:08 am
by Cruiser1234
Pugsy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:54 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:46 pm
Cruiser1234 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:40 pm
That's a great find! I guess the upgrade will be worth it for $19.99
uh, what?
First post by the OP about his "new" used machine. He found it at a thrift store.
Yesterday I found a Resmed S9 VPAP S in a thrift store. Marked $19.99, we applied a 20% discount and got it for ~$16. Only thing I've found wrong is the humidifier water tank is missing.
Although admittedly, I did forget about the 20% discount which makes it an even better deal.
Also, thrift stores normally just toss donated units in the compactor as they are prescription devices. I often think about how many ASV's are tossed because people don't know what they are.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:00 pm
by oldmobie
Had to go back to the tutorial to see
what to post. Sorry for the delay.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:42 pm
by palerider
Raise both epap and ipap by 1cm and see what that does for a day or two., then repeat, till AHI is lower.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:32 pm
by oldmobie
palerider wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Raise both epap and ipap by 1cm and see what that does for a day or two., then repeat, till AHI is lower.
Will do. Thank you!
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:05 am
by RobertS975
Pugsy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:01 pm
OSCAR is based on SleepyHead so what I said about SleepyHead works for OSCAR.
ResMed S9 machines are a little bit quirky when it comes to the SD card. Windows 8.xxx and higher (and some Macs) add a little text file to the SD card and while the software like SleepyHead or OSCAR or even ResScan don't care about that little text file....the S9 models care and they won't accept the SD card with that little text file on it.
So we tell S9 machine users to lock the SD card (write protect) so the operating system doesn't put that little text file on the SD card.
ResMed S9 machines are the only brand/model of machines that this matters.
The AirSense/AirCurve models don't care and the other brands don't care either.
If that little text file is on the SD card and a person puts that SD card in a S9 machine you get an "invalid card" message and a prompt to erase the card.
You can get the provider manual via email from here for your new machine if you don't have it.
https://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap- ... tup-manual
There is some limited data available on the machine's LCD screen and the provider manual explains how to turn that feature on and how to get to that data.
Once I know the event category breakdown of your AHI....I will have a better idea how to advise you on your settings.
So even if you can't get the software up and running just yet...you can get the category breakdown off the machine's LCD screen from the Sleep Report feature.
PUGSY, so if using an S10, I don't need to lock the SD card when putting it into the desktop? I have just gotten into the habit...
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:12 am
by Pugsy
RobertS975 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:05 am
PUGSY, so if using an S10, I don't need to lock the SD card when putting it into the desktop? I have just gotten into the habit...
Correct. When using the AirSense/AirCurve 10 models....there is no need to lock/write protect the SD card.
The only model machine that cares about any text file put on SD cards by operating systems is the S9 models.
I first used the S9 with Windows 7...no need to lock the card so until I upgraded to 8.1 I think it was...not an issue with Win 7... so I had the habit of not locking it ingrained and it was a struggle for me to remember to lock it. Fortunately I learned how to remove that text file without erasing the SD card but once I got to Windows 10 it became more work so I got a little better about remembering to lock it.
Then a couple of years or three ago I got an AirSense machine....I easily reverted to not remembering to lock it because I had the opposite habit than you....
It doesn't hurt to go ahead and lock it and some people would say you should do it no matter what anyway but it's just extra work that really isn't needed so I sure am not going to be doing it.
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:54 pm
by oldmobie
palerider wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Raise both epap and ipap by 1cm and see what that does for a day or two., then repeat, till AHI is lower.
I did as instructed, once. It's lower now. Thank you!
Re: Switching to a better (but used) machine, no professionals are involved.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:03 pm
by oldmobie
Just miscellaneous notes:
1) It took me awhile to figure out the time scale on OSCAR charts stretches to fit the data. Looks as if it shows up to 24 hours. (Noon to noon, at least with Resmed.) Looks as though it zooms in so that it's full, if you have less than 24 hours of data to chart.
2) My humidifier tank came this morning. Should be even better tonight! (Unless I overshoot and get rain-out.)