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Our bedroom furniture did not include nightstands, so I purchased two CPAP nightstands. The machine sits on a slide out shelf inside the nightstand. We can slide the machines out to make it easier to access the water chambers.

jani7 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 am

So, after 4 months of easily adapting to using a cpap machine, this past week I've knocked the machine off my night table onto myself (it's on a shelf a little above head height) waking me.
I do turn side to side occasionally during the night, but twice now I guess I've wrapped the hose around myself, causing the fall onto me.

Water is then in the hose from the fall, so I have to drain it before trying to get back to sleep around 4AM!

Can anyone offer a suggestion on how to avoid this, besides the wiseguy answer of don't move................

Thanks!

I've never used a "hose management system"........I've always put my machines on some old, large mouse pads. That way, they won't slide off of wherever they're located. If that isn't enough, apply some black plastic electrical tape or Duck tape over top of the machine to hold it to the surface.......in addition to the mouse pads.
My machine is located on the night stand next to my bed. It sits on some old, large mouse pads. The night stand is slightly lower than my bed and has a lip around it to keep anything from sliding off. My hose is only exposed for about 8 inches before it goes under my covers.


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jani7 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:34 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:20 am

jani7, i put my machine on the floor and use a six foot hose.

works for me but then i'm not a restless sleeper.

Unfortunately I am a restless sleeper.
I had it on the floor the first night, but then the wife made me move it up onto the night table's shelf, because it made the room look cluttered..................

1. hey, as they say, "happy wife, happy life".

2. whatever works best for you. you gotta do something, because pulling off your cpap machine is bound to have a negative affect on your therapy!

To the OP: if you like a hose stand/lift at home, the Arden Innovations lift is a good one for travel. It collapses to a very small size, and while it doesn’t have the solidity of the Hose Buddy, it works. BTW, if you put your machine in a drawer, be sure to leave the drawer open or create some other way to get a good supply of fresh air into the intake.

jani7 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:15 pm

But what really caught my eye, don't know why it never crossed my mind, was putting the machine inside the night table drawer. That would eliminate pulling it down on top of me and potentially frying the machine's circuitry from the water spillage.
Have to check if it fits tonight when I get home.

Thank you!

This is what I do. I have a night stand next to mybed that has the machinein the second drawer. I close it during the day so that my cats can't do anything to the machine. It also keeps the filter from working as hard since there is little dust or stuff in the drawer. It is open at night, so plenty of air for the machine to use. The top drawer holds my mask during the day as well as other small supplies. And I have my spare hose, extra masks, etc in the big bottom drawer. It all works well, and the machine never moves.

When I travel, I usually put the travel machine(identical to the main machine) in the night stand drawer. If that isn't an option, I will put it on top of the night stand, or I use my cat carrier as a table with a towel on it so that the machine sits on it well.

I know to some this may sound strange, but the advice I was given and have always stood by, is to keep the machine lower than the head - for obvious reasons if using a machine with water chamber/humidifier. I put mine on the floor and use a longer hose.

Last night I placed my machine in the night stand drawer which is a wee bit lower than head height. It worked great!

Problem solved I think, with a simple obvious solution.

Thanks to all for your advice, someone had a picture using their drawer, so kudos for that!

Now I'm off for a 3 week overseas trip, hope I have no issues. I'm bringing my own distilled water in several of those 500 ml water bottles in my checked in luggage.

jani7 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:13 am

Now I'm off for a 3 week overseas trip, hope I have no issues. I'm bringing my own distilled water in several of those 500 ml water bottles in my checked in luggage.

That's fine if it's what you want to do. But, any drinkable water, including tap water, will do. If the tap water contains minerals, a little bit of scale could form in the humidifier tank. But, it is easy to clean out with a 50/50 mixture of white vinegar/water.

Enjoy the trip!

andysnorer wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:37 am

I know to some this may sound strange, but the advice I was given and have always stood by, is to keep the machine lower than the head - for obvious reasons if using a machine with water chamber/humidifier. I put mine on the floor and use a longer hose.

this exchange posted earlier in the thread-

jani7 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:34 pm

zonker wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:20 am

jani7, i put my machine on the floor and use a six foot hose.

works for me but then i'm not a restless sleeper.

Unfortunately I am a restless sleeper.
I had it on the floor the first night, but then the wife made me move it up onto the night table's shelf, because it made the room look cluttered..................

just sayin'

ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:23 am

jani7 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:13 am

Now I'm off for a 3 week overseas trip, hope I have no issues. I'm bringing my own distilled water in several of those 500 ml water bottles in my checked in luggage.

That's fine if it's what you want to do. But, any drinkable water, including tap water, will do. If the tap water contains minerals, a little bit of scale could form in the humidifier tank. But, it is easy to clean out with a 50/50 mixture of white vinegar/water.

Enjoy the trip!

Yes, the reason to use distilled water is just to avoid the 'inconvenience' of a short vinegar soak to clean out the tank. In many countries, the cpap manuals don't say to use distilled water, and in many countries, distilled water is hard to find... so, save the weight (and space) of the water in your luggage, and just use the drinking water on the trip.

I've always used Velcro with a small plastic buckle to attach my hose to something unmovable like my headboard. I give my self just a few inches of slack from the machines resting spot to were I secure the hose, then the rest of the slack is for me to pull and toss about as I see fit, with no concern I'm going to yank my machine into the floor and damage it.

Something like this,
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Conn ... 837&sr=8-1

Velcro I use is this,
https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-ONE ... 21&sr=8-20

I use a short bit of Velcro to secure one part of the buckle to my hose, and a much longer bit of Velcro to secure the other end to the headboard. If I want to transport my PAP I simply unbuckle it and go. I've been with my CPAP so long I no longer yank on the tubing so on the rare nights I'm away from home traveling I don't worry so much about securing my CPAP so I don't pull on the hose. It simply hasn't been as much of an issue for me. If your concerned you may still pull on the hose when your away from home, or if your bed provides no convenient locations to secure your hose, consider getting one of the aforementioned hose management devices others have mentioned. They can be a real convenience allowing the hose to be lifted up and out of the way letting you move more freely in the night if your apt to do so.

The other thing I do is I always have my hose in a hose wrap or cover, this makes the hose soft and allows it to be a lot less "Medical" so it's nicer to deal with. Cuts down on noise if the tubing rubs on something hard and makes it soft if I brush up against it in the night, it's just another bed accessory covered in soft fabric, nothing to be concerned about. I make my own with a sewing machine and I use a bit of the "Velcro" above cut in half sewn into the seam on each end to secure the cover. It's really easy to make even if your a total beginner with a sewing machine.

I can provide a photo of my setup if anyone wants to see it.

Rest well,

Gryphon

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:34 pm

also keeps the filter from working as hard since there is little dust or stuff in the drawer.

One thing to keep in mind is that the machine sucks in many gallons of air every minute, so the cleanliness of the drawer likely doesn't matter for long.

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:54 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:34 pm

also keeps the filter from working as hard since there is little dust or stuff in the drawer.

One thing to keep in mind is that the machine sucks in many gallons of air every minute, so the cleanliness of the drawer likely doesn't matter for long.

My mom's machine (in the same house) is kept on the floor next to her recliner. Every time I check her filter, it is overdue for a change. And of course, when the cover fell off during a trip, she had no filter at all and sucked in dog hair.

My machine goes months and months with the filter looking brand new. It does seem to stay a lot cleaner in that drawer than next to my mom's chair

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:45 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:54 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:34 pm

also keeps the filter from working as hard since there is little dust or stuff in the drawer.

One thing to keep in mind is that the machine sucks in many gallons of air every minute, so the cleanliness of the drawer likely doesn't matter for long.

My mom's machine (in the same house) is kept on the floor next to her recliner. Every time I check her filter, it is overdue for a change. And of course, when the cover fell off during a trip, she had no filter at all and sucked in dog hair.

My machine goes months and months with the filter looking brand new. It does seem to stay a lot cleaner in that drawer than next to my mom's chair

Well, that makes sense, I bet if you got a little table, her's wouldn't pick up as much pet hair too

palerider wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:07 am

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:45 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:54 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:34 pm

also keeps the filter from working as hard since there is little dust or stuff in the drawer.

One thing to keep in mind is that the machine sucks in many gallons of air every minute, so the cleanliness of the drawer likely doesn't matter for long.

My mom's machine (in the same house) is kept on the floor next to her recliner. Every time I check her filter, it is overdue for a change. And of course, when the cover fell off during a trip, she had no filter at all and sucked in dog hair.

My machine goes months and months with the filter looking brand new. It does seem to stay a lot cleaner in that drawer than next to my mom's chair

Well, that makes sense, I bet if you got a little table, her's wouldn't pick up as much pet hair too

I have thought about putting my machine in a CPAP stand or drawer. This might be one reason to do that.

Roger