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Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 pm
by palerider
Janknitz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:38 pm
Well, the Dreamstation does have a removable modem
I didn't know that! Are they charging extra for it???
That, i do not know, but the modem (and wifi and bluetooth modules) plug in on the side opposite the filter.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:55 am
by GTOJim
A dumb question, I do not have a newer CPAP with a modem. My Wifi access is protected with a password.
If I don't provide a password it would seem the modem in a CPAP could not transmit any data or am I missing something?
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:04 pm
by Pugsy
GTOJim wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:55 am
A dumb question, I do not have a newer CPAP with a modem. My Wifi access is protected with a password.
If I don't provide a password it would seem the modem in a CPAP could not transmit any data or am I missing something?
The modems in these machines use a cellular data network like the smart phones use.
They don't use a local WiFi network like you might set up inside your house for your devices.
You have zero control over the network these machines use except if a person turns the machine to airplane mode to block transmission or disables the transmission by some other means.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:18 pm
by palerider
GTOJim wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:55 am
A dumb question, I do not have a newer CPAP with a modem. My Wifi access is protected with a password.
If I don't provide a password it would seem the modem in a CPAP could not transmit any data or am I missing something?
As pugsy says, the machines don't use wifi... That would be a nightmare security hole. Imagine hackers changing your settings all night long.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
by bwexler
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
by zonker
bwexler wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
faraday cage, or gtfo!
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
by palerider
zonker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
bwexler wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
faraday cage, or gtfo!
If you don't line the whole room with copper mesh/aluminum foil/metallic blocking paint.... YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! (and you deserve to have your thoughts read by the gubmint/aliens)
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:10 pm
by babydinosnoreless
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
bwexler wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
faraday cage, or gtfo!
If you don't line the whole room with copper mesh/aluminum foil/metallic blocking paint.... YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! (and you deserve to have your thoughts read by the gubmint/aliens)
You can buy the stuff cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Faraday-Cage-E ... SwGvhUH1DX
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:14 pm
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:10 pm
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
bwexler wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
faraday cage, or gtfo!
If you don't line the whole room with copper mesh/aluminum foil/metallic blocking paint.... YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! (and you deserve to have your thoughts read by the gubmint/aliens)
You can buy the stuff cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Faraday-Cage-E ... SwGvhUH1DX
Well spotted!
You think the preppers, when lying on their deathbed... are disappointed that they spent their entire lives preparing for something that never happened?
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:47 am
by chunkyfrog
Scare tactics are extremely effective, and potentially very profitable.
The uneducated are especially vulnerable.
Think about Y2K.
Some people made a pile of money.
Many others wound up with egg on their faces.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:02 am
by babydinosnoreless
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:14 pm
babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:10 pm
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
bwexler wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:40 pm
I wonder if a tin foil hat placed over the CPAP would be effective at disabling the modem?
faraday cage, or gtfo!
If you don't line the whole room with copper mesh/aluminum foil/metallic blocking paint.... YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! (and you deserve to have your thoughts read by the gubmint/aliens)
You can buy the stuff cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Faraday-Cage-E ... SwGvhUH1DX
Well spotted!
You think the preppers, when lying on their deathbed... are disappointed that they spent their entire lives preparing for something that never happened?
I would be mad at all the money spent that could have been spent on important things like shoes. Hmmm wonder if I can take the shoes with me.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:45 am
by zonker
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:14 pm
You think the preppers, when lying on their deathbed... are disappointed that they spent their entire lives preparing for something that never happened?
85% of what we worry about never happens-
https://donjosephgoewey.com/eighty-five ... -happen-2/
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:20 pm
by GTOJim
Sorry, I have another question regarding CPAP modems. Does the DME program the CPAP or modem where the data is sent, who receives the data? My old CPAP's do not have modems, trying to understand how this works.
My Insurance changed to a perpetual rental, thus my next CPAP will be out of pocket.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:25 pm
by prodigyplace
GTOJim wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:20 pm
Sorry, I have another question regarding CPAP modems. Does the DME program the CPAP or modem where the data is sent, who receives the data? My old CPAP's do not have modems, trying to understand how this works.
My Insurance changed to a perpetual rental, thus my next CPAP will be out of pocket.
The manufacturer receives the data and determines who gets access to which parts. For instance, ResMed has mine.
Re: Compliance phone call
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:49 pm
by palerider
babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:02 am
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:14 pm
babydinosnoreless wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:10 pm
palerider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm
zonker wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
faraday cage, or gtfo!
If you don't line the whole room with copper mesh/aluminum foil/metallic blocking paint.... YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! (and you deserve to have your thoughts read by the gubmint/aliens)
You can buy the stuff cheap on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Faraday-Cage-E ... SwGvhUH1DX
Well spotted!
You think the preppers, when lying on their deathbed... are disappointed that they spent their entire lives preparing for something that never happened?
I would be mad at all the money spent that could have been spent on important things like shoes. Hmmm wonder if I can take the shoes with me.
Only after being properly mummified.