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Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:07 pm
by elavi001
Arlene1963 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:00 pm
Goofproof wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:58 am
Which is the better outcome, a person with Mild Sleep Apnea falls asleep at the wheel and hits a School Bus, killing the driver and 36 children, or a person with Severe Sleep Apnea falls asleep at the wheel and hits a School Bus, killing the driver and 36 children? Is treating Sleep Apnea cost effective?
If not, money saved, treating the Sleep Apnea, After the wreck one less car with a impaired driver, 1 bus, one driver, 36 children, 1 less schoolroom. Does that balance the scales. Can we save everyone without a time machine!
Jim
I have moderate OSA and have never experienced the classic OSA fatigue or sleepiness. In fact the exact opposite!
What next? If you have insomnia you can't drive?
If you have T2 diabetes that is poorly controlled you will have your driver's licence yanked? (eyesight issues and all that)
Are we all going to need a doctor's certificate to verify that we have optimal sleep, every night?
How exactly is this state of utopia achieved?
Be careful what you wish for.
You say that like it's a joke, but I have occasional insomnia and I don't dare get behind the wheel after a night of poor rest. I take a taxi. Which is a liberty not everyone can take, I understand. The truth is, sleepiness and poor eyesight mean you cannot properly drive. Driving is not a right. The rest of us on the road don't want to pay for your condition too.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
by elavi001
Also, I thank everyone for the serious replies. I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
I know some of you have refuted any witch-hunting, but don't play yourselves, y'all are condescending as hell.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm
by Pugsy
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:31 pm
by elavi001
Pugsy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
Thank you captain obvious.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:45 pm
by Pugsy
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
Thank you captain obvious.
Well...you ask an obvious question so you get an obvious answer.
I didn't know that you already knew the answer or I wouldn't have bothered.
Have a nice day.
the list grows.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pm
by elavi001
Pugsy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:45 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
Thank you captain obvious.
Well...you ask an obvious question so you get an obvious answer.
I didn't know that you already knew the answer or I wouldn't have bothered.
Have a nice day.
the list grows.
Wait hold on... why is it an obvious question? I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:51 pm
by palerider
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:45 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Pugsy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:25 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:11 pm
I have been using CPAP every night for a year. I'm not avoiding anything, I just want to know why I'm not feeling the benefit.
Maybe because there is something else going on or in addition to mild OSA????
Thank you captain obvious.
Well...you ask an obvious question so you get an obvious answer.
I didn't know that you already knew the answer or I wouldn't have bothered.
Have a nice day.
the list grows.
Wait hold on... why is it an obvious question? I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
smart assed replies tend to get people put on ignore lists...
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:10 pm
by Goofproof
Do you use REAL Software to monitor your XPAP progress and do you post it here so others can comment of ways to make it better. If not, how do you determine, your treatment is the best it can be. When you get it correct the treatment is one less thing you have to worry about, Then you can chase other causes, one by one. Jim
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:20 pm
by jimbud
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pm
Wait hold on... why is it an obvious question? I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
Well you have proven you are an A hole, but cpap even works for them.
You come on here asking for advice and then proceed to insult the best and brightest.
You might try another forum.
Try a different approach.
Might get a different result.
JPB
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:24 pm
by jnk...
Another dancing-zebra thread.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:42 pm
by zonker
jnk... wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:24 pm
Another dancing-zebra thread.
shockedkoala.jpg
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:17 pm
by Julie
You said "it could be that Cpap isn't working for me". Sounds interesting, but cpap isn't like a pill that sometimes works better for some but not others. It's a mechanical process, measurable, so if set up properly and tested with software, etc. can show results that are specific... even reproducible.
I just saw this thread tonight for the first time, and saw that experts have been trying to explain stuff and help you, but your attitude stinks, so why should they continue bothering?
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:24 pm
by chunkyfrog
The problem is that using cpap takes EFFORT.
It is like dancing; practice improves your odds, as does a good attitude.--
There is a kind of zen, that once achieved, it is a beautiful thing.
If you fight it, you will only end up crushing your own toes.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:57 pm
by ChicagoGranny
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pm
captain obvious I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
It could be that book you read telling you to take two-hour naps.
Re: 12 Year old study claims "Mild OSA should not be treated." Thoughts?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:04 pm
by jimbud
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:57 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 pm
captain obvious I still don't know the answer to my question. It could be something else going on, but It could still very well be that CPAP isn't working for me.
It could be that book you read telling you to take two-hour naps.
Once again something one says rises up to bite them.
JPB
