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Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:44 am
by ChicagoGranny
Nick Danger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:57 pm
There is no evidence that brief naps during the afternoon have any effect on night time sleep quality (however, contrary to Elavi001's statement - the studies I reviewed did not show any evidence of improved night time sleep quality, either). I'm going to have to reconsider the advice I give my clients - still not sure where to head on this.
I support taking a 15-minute afternoon nap if one is sure to limit it to 15 minutes. The problem for a CPAPer is it takes some effort to carry the machine to the table beside the sofa, plug it in and put on the mask. After the nap, the process needs to be reversed. And, many of us will then have a problem where the mask headgear has played havoc with the hair. All of this for 15 minutes of sleep? Blechh. Maybe it's better to summon all your energy and skip the nap? Make your own cost/benefit analysis.
If one takes an hour or longer nap, you would need less sleep at night and should plan to stay up longer. The exception is the chronically sleep-deprived person who can always use some sleep.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:02 pm
by chunkyfrog
I only take a nap if I am sick or have gotten unusually little sleep during the night.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:15 pm
by palerider
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:33 am
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:22 pm
Daytime naps are programmed into our genes and they even promote healthier night-time sleep.
That sounds
sciencey, so I am sure you will provide a citation.
I think the word you were looking for is 'bullshitty'.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:16 pm
by yrnkrn
Goofproof wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:05 pm
they won't diagnose Sleep Apnea
Many times the SpO2 graph is very "apneic" with characteristic sawtooth patterns of suffocation followed by arousal.
Here is an actual SpO2 graph that finally convinced me to start CPAPing:
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:29 pm
by elavi001
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:33 am
elavi001 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:22 pm
Daytime naps are programmed into our genes and they even promote healthier night-time sleep.
That sounds sciencey, so I am sure you will provide a citation.
Sure thing!
I got this info from a book:
Take a nap! Change your life. by Sara Mednick PhD
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:30 pm
by elavi001
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:44 am
Nick Danger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:57 pm
There is no evidence that brief naps during the afternoon have any effect on night time sleep quality (however, contrary to Elavi001's statement - the studies I reviewed did not show any evidence of improved night time sleep quality, either). I'm going to have to reconsider the advice I give my clients - still not sure where to head on this.
I support taking a 15-minute afternoon nap if one is sure to limit it to 15 minutes. The problem for a CPAPer is it takes some effort to carry the machine to the table beside the sofa, plug it in and put on the mask. After the nap, the process needs to be reversed. And, many of us will then have a problem where the mask headgear has played havoc with the hair. All of this for 15 minutes of sleep? Blechh. Maybe it's better to summon all your energy and skip the nap? Make your own cost/benefit analysis.
If one takes an hour or longer nap, you would need less sleep at night and should plan to stay up longer. The exception is the chronically sleep-deprived person who can always use some sleep.
Why are you limiting nap lengths to 15 minutes? Naps are beneficial for up to 2 hours in duration.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:50 pm
by ChicagoGranny
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:29 pm
I got this info from a book:
Take a nap! Change your life. by Sara Mednick PhD
That doesn't even come close to being a citation in a peer-reviewed science or medical journal.
elavi001 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:30 pm
Why are you limiting nap lengths to 15 minutes? Naps are beneficial for up to 2 hours in duration.
My afternoon naps are limited to 15 minutes so as not to interfere with a full night's sleep. And, that 15 minutes is surprisingly effective.
You can do whatever you want to do. Bye.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:56 pm
by elavi001
Well Sara Mednick is the lead researcher on all things related to naps and she wrote a book for the general public. So I trust it. Seems pretty trustworthy to me. I don't read research journals often and it's very difficult for a layman like me to digest them.
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:10 pm
by Goofproof
elavi001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:56 pm
Well Sara Mednick is the lead researcher on all things related to naps and she wrote a book for the general public. So I trust it. Seems pretty trustworthy to me. I don't read research journals often and it's very difficult for a layman like me to digest them.
So what you're saying her books put people to sleep.
Jim
Re: What are your thoughts on these consumer pulse oximeters?
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:34 pm
by elavi001
Goofproof wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:10 pm
elavi001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:56 pm
Well Sara Mednick is the lead researcher on all things related to naps and she wrote a book for the general public. So I trust it. Seems pretty trustworthy to me. I don't read research journals often and it's very difficult for a layman like me to digest them.
So what you're saying her books put people to sleep.
Jim
I can't deny that
