Do we need to order pulse/oximeters soon without prescription?

TropicalDiver · Post by **TropicalDiver** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:37 pm

This thread is why I get frustrated with this site. Person asks a question (yes, it was bit long, and yes the question jumped to a conclusion). Someone takes the time to respond in a helpful manner but with snark. The snark was unneeded and detracted from the otherwise very helpful post. Next poster attacks the poster with snark. Another person attacks the attacker. OP expresses thanks for the help.

There are real questions being asked and answered. That is good but everything else....

NoOnesPerfect · Post by **NoOnesPerfect** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:48 pm

TropicalDiver wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:37 pm
This thread is why I get frustrated with this site. Person asks a question (yes, it was bit long, and yes the question jumped to a conclusion). Someone takes the time to respond in a helpful manner but with snark. The snark was unneeded and detracted from the otherwise very helpful post. Next poster attacks the poster with snark. Another person attacks the attacker. OP expresses thanks for the help.

There are real questions being asked and answered. That is good but everything else....

You just need to apply your own chaff filter, and focus on the helpful information. This site is certainly not unique in the variety of personalities and approaches. Sadly, the level of discourse is rarely what you would hope would be found in face-to-face contacts - then again, from what I see on the news these days, maybe I am being over optimistic about those too

jimbud · Post by **jimbud** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:31 pm

TropicalDiver wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:37 pm
This thread is why I get frustrated with this site. Person asks a question (yes, it was bit long, and yes the question jumped to a conclusion). Someone takes the time to respond in a helpful manner but with snark. The snark was unneeded and detracted from the otherwise very helpful post. Next poster attacks the poster with snark. Another person attacks the attacker. OP expresses thanks for the help.

There are real questions being asked and answered. That is good but everything else....

Have you read this guy's other threads.
He doesn't ask serious questions.
He just poses a question and then starts rattling on.

I have read your posts and think you are very good at helping people.
The only way you are helping this guy is by giving him what he really wants, attention.
That fine.

As far as the snarking goes. That is the way this forum is. I guess you will just have to deal with it the best you can.
For me, it along with the joking, sparing and general relaxed attitude here is why I am still hanging out.

Be happy.

JPB

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:18 pm

camper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 am
So, I panicked, when I could have spent more time figuring out what device would best meet my needs,

Most of your posts could be summarized with "they'd be better off with less posting, and more reading.

camper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 am
. I don't even know whether finger-tip-clamp devices work better than wrist-contact devices.

They don't.
oximetry is a very simple thing, you can build one at home, I've seen plans.

camper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 am
That eBay notice could really discourage a lot of people's orders.

Not my concern.

SDBud · Post by **SDBud** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:42 pm

camper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:33 am
No they don't. I checked 11 different ads, not ONE mention of this eBay required disclaimer.
I made a quick check on Amazon for a specific device, found one or two ads that said something similar, which I can't find at the moment, though it was worded differently. How odd.

So, I panicked, when I could have spent more time figuring out what device would best meet my needs, and maybe getting a better deal. I don't even know whether finger-tip-clamp devices work better than wrist-contact devices.

That eBay notice could really discourage a lot of people's orders.

ONLY disclaimer I could find on Amazon is this (or similar)..

Legal Disclaimer
This device is for sports and aviation only.They are not intended for medical use.

Statements regarding dietary supplements have not been evaluated by the FDA and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or health condition.

zoocrewphoto · Post by **zoocrewphoto** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:08 pm

Midwest_non_sleeper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:49 am

Rexlan wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:40 am
No, LAMErider didn't check anything or can't read. Just a forum queen with a big mouth and seldom, if ever helpful.
You got the notice correct.

Maybe if you get lucky you will make LAMEriders ignore list like me ...

camper wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:32 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:33 am
No they don't. I checked 11 different ads, not ONE mention of this eBay required disclaimer.
I made a quick check on Amazon for a specific device, found one or two ads that said something similar, which I can't find at the moment, though it was worded differently. How odd.

So, I panicked, when I could have spent more time figuring out what device would best meet my needs, and maybe getting a better deal. I don't even know whether finger-tip-clamp devices work better than wrist-contact devices.

That eBay notice could really discourage a lot of people's orders.

Not sure if troll or not, but I checked several different ones on Amazon and Palerider is correct here. You are, in fact, the one that's wrong. The majority of them simply had a legal disclaimer saying that they're for pilots or athletes, hence, they are not "medical devices". Since they're not medical devices, the FDA has no control of them.

Not really all that hard to debunk the dumb, now please refrain from the ad hominem attacks, they're a favorite fallacy tactic of someone who has zero credibility or correct information and simply cannot refute something.

If you'd like to have a debate on facts or logical analysis, I'm sure many here would be your huckleberry.

I did a look too, and I found this in one of the ads -
WARNING:
CHOKING HAZARD -- Toy contains a small ball. Not for children under 3 yrs.

Also, back when I bought a new filter cover for my mom's cpap machine, I kept getting an error that stated I had to be a licensed reseller for pharmacy equipment to by it, yet the same filter cover was available for twice the price without that problem. And it is just a filter cover. It was clearly a mistake since the others were available to the public. They had me buy the one without the issue and refunded the difference. Weird.

prodigyplace · Post by **prodigyplace** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:23 pm

Rexlan wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:43 am
Another forum queen -- If you can't deal with the facts then step behind the barn and shoot yourself like the ass you usually make of yourself.

Somehow I did not expect you to be talking to yourself like that in a public forum.

I cannot argue that it DOES apply to you, though

If course that means I am wrong because PaleRider says to in hie signature. That must mean he is your buddy.

zonker · Post by **zonker** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:10 pm

Rexlan wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:40 am
No, LAMErider didn't check anything or can't read. Just a forum queen with a big mouth and seldom, if ever helpful.

"seldom"-

viewtopic/t176069/Recent-Sleepyhead-data.html

viewtopic/t174163/OldNewbiefirst-graph.html

viewtopic/p1307804/Switching-cpap-machines.html

viewtopic/t174823/SH-leak-data-and-patterns.html

viewtopic/t103074/Need-advice.html

viewtopic/t174752/UARS-and-CPAP.html?start=15

yup.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:29 pm

exlax wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:43 am
I am... a troll.

That, we can agree on.

exlax wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:43 am
@Midwest_non_sleeper .. no, you are completely wrong ... check e-Bay where OP referenced and LAMErider said none existed. Now you're carrying the water - stupid.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said that not one of the *AMAZON* listings I checked had the required eBay notice. someone with ANY reading comprehension would notice that while camper had alleged that amazon had the same notices, not one of the amazon listings checked had what is *quite obviously* an EBAY required notice.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:33 pm

zonker wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:10 pm

Exlax wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:40 am
No, LAMErider didn't check anything or can't read. Just a forum queen with a big mouth and seldom, if ever helpful.

"seldom"-

viewtopic/t176069/Recent-Sleepyhead-data.html

viewtopic/t174163/OldNewbiefirst-graph.html

viewtopic/p1307804/Switching-cpap-machines.html

viewtopic/t174823/SH-leak-data-and-patterns.html

viewtopic/t103074/Need-advice.html

viewtopic/t174752/UARS-and-CPAP.html?start=15

yup.

the rabid squirrel must be using "seldom" in a way not normally used, or found in dictionaries.... who can tell past all the foaming?

Midwest_non_sleeper · Post by **Midwest_non_sleeper** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:11 am

palerider wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:29 pm

exlax wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:43 am
I am... a troll.
That, we can agree on.
exlax wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:43 am
@Midwest_non_sleeper .. no, you are completely wrong ... check e-Bay where OP referenced and LAMErider said none existed. Now you're carrying the water - stupid.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

I said that not one of the *AMAZON* listings I checked had the required eBay notice. someone with ANY reading comprehension would notice that while camper had alleged that amazon had the same notices, not one of the amazon listings checked had what is *quite obviously* an EBAY required notice.

Correct. Since OP stated that "Most of the Amazon ads carry a similar notice", I checked Amazon. Much to my surprise, not only did I not find that "Most of the Amazon ads carry a similar notice", but in fact, "most" of them do NOT carry that notice.

Reading comprehension - 1
Person who claimed something that isn't true - 0

Now look, I've successfully been turned into a hypocrite, because that's clearly an ad hominem. Oh well, I suppose I'll have to finally admit that I am indeed human. I'm evidently having a bad morning, I'll get more coffee and slink back into my cellar.

NoOnesPerfect · Post by **NoOnesPerfect** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:24 pm

Just to add fuel to this fire - I just got a Contec CMS50F, and guess what it says on the box - restricted to sale by, or on the order of, a physician. Maybe you DO need a prescription

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Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:41 pm

It all comes down to: You should have to pass a intelligence test BEFORE, being allowed to make Laws, Suggest Laws, or Enforce Laws. Also the people that want to do the above, should have to pay for all the costs and bother caused by them wanting to make life worse for everyone affected by their Actions.

I think we only need follow Ten Laws, and maybe 5 Sub Laws.

Jim

Why do we have to pay others to make up Laws to make our lives harder......

prodigyplace · Post by **prodigyplace** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:03 pm

Goofproof wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:41 pm
I think we only need follow Ten Laws,

Call them the Ten Commandments

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:38 pm

Didn't want to bring up Religion, too many Non-believers here, didn't want to ruffle Feathers.

Jim

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