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Yes! I am a dentist in Austin TX and have developed an inexpensive intraoral device that keeps the mouth closed and replaces the chin strap. I am not able to make them outside of my office, yet. It is available at my office, Urban Dentistry, if you are ever in Austin

Hey Jumbojorbs ~~~

I am not sure why exactly, but my retainers that I got after my braces work PERFECTLY for keeping my mouth closed and in good position. They act as a bite guard too.

They are made like invisalign braces. You could straighten out your overbite at the same time?

I wore quick metal braces and and now just wear the retainer at night but if you don't care about a quick result on the overbite you could go the slower invisalign route and solve two problems with one solution.

Definitely shop around though!

I could not believe the HUGE differences in cost with dentists. One quote was a full TEN TIMES higher than what I ended up paying.

I also am struggling with this issue. It's been over a year.

CVS neck collar doesn't work because I just turn on my side and it creates a gap under my chin.
Head/jaw strap thing from Amazon didn't work because somehow my mouth still opens (but it does help)
Tape doesn't really work because air still finds a way out (about 50/50). Stronger tape rips my skin off.
Scunci didn't work or I was doing something wrong.
I also use a 'boil and bite' night guard molded to my lower jaw only. The last one was molded to my upper jaw but I thought maybe it was getting in the way of my tongue so I did this one differently. I still have 2 blank molds so I may experiment with differnt mold shapes etc..

I've often wondered about some sort of non-toxic glue or that latex 'fake skin' from halloween.
I'm very curious about the denture adhesive Chunkyfrog mentioned. Is it completely non-toxic? Why leave 1/2" open in the middle?

katestyles wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 6:20 pm

I am experimenting with the Fischer Paykel oracle "mask".

It is an oral mask, for those who cannot breathe through their nose. I have re-purposed it.

It seals well around the mouth, with one flap of silicone between teeth and lips, and one flap over the outside of the mouth. I have tape over the vents and the end of the tube. I couldn't find a 22mm cork in the CPAP drawer. (Although I will be looking for one!)

It is easier to remove than tape, creates less heat than a cervical collar, and I don't use the headgear, so no headgear.

I have only used it all night one night, due to other things going on, but I will be pulling it out again tonight.

If I could find a y- joint, I could hook it in with my bleeps and make a hybrid mask.

How is this going for you, Kate? I really need something to help keep my mouth closed and taping (and all the usual suggestions--cervical collar, Scunci, taping) aren't working.
At this point I am willing to try anything and this mask sounds good if it will work!

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 2:27 pm

Poli grip strips, cut then placed between lips, leaving a half inch in the middle.
Or chin up strips, bulldog style.

Two new things I haven't tried! Thanks, Chunkyfrog... but what is bulldog style?
Are the Poli Grip strips difficult to remove from your lips in the morning? Are you applying them more on the wet surface of your lips?

amyurban wrote: ↑

Tue May 21, 2019 12:38 pm

Yes! I am a dentist in Austin TX and have developed an inexpensive intraoral device that keeps the mouth closed and replaces the chin strap. I am not able to make them outside of my office, yet. It is available at my office, Urban Dentistry, if you are ever in Austin

For me, it could be worth a trip to Austin.

Danvers wrote: ↑

Thu May 23, 2019 8:26 am

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chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 2:27 pm

Poli grip strips, cut then placed between lips, leaving a half inch in the middle.
Or chin up strips, bulldog style.

Two new things I haven't tried! Thanks, Chunkyfrog... but what is bulldog style?
Are the Poli Grip strips difficult to remove from your lips in the morning? Are you applying them more on the wet surface of your lips?

Poli grip--wet lips, easy removal.
Chin up strips--stick middle just below lower lip, pull lip up until it overlaps upper lip slightly. Then adhere wings to hold lip up. Look in mirror. Try not to laugh. Bulldogface--cuute selfie.

chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Thu May 23, 2019 11:43 am

Danvers wrote: ↑

Thu May 23, 2019 8:26 am

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chunkyfrog wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 2:27 pm

Poli grip strips, cut then placed between lips, leaving a half inch in the middle.
Or chin up strips, bulldog style.

Two new things I haven't tried! Thanks, Chunkyfrog... but what is bulldog style?
Are the Poli Grip strips difficult to remove from your lips in the morning? Are you applying them more on the wet surface of your lips?

Poli grip--wet lips, easy removal.
Chin up strips--stick middle just below lower lip, pull lip up until it overlaps upper lip slightly. Then adhere wings to hold lip up. Look in mirror. Try not to laugh. Bulldogface--cuute selfie.

Ah!! That makes perfect sense! Thank you!

jimbud wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm

2" micro tape over mouth cheek to cheek.

dual layer.

yrnkrn wrote: ↑

Sat May 25, 2019 10:47 am

jimbud wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm

2" micro tape over mouth cheek to cheek.

dual layer.

Yeah. Whatever works.
I also put Aquaphor ( petrolatum jelly - yes is spelled right) on my lips so I can remove tape without removing lips.
Meds I take have side effect of cough which blows tape loose. Thus 2" elastic band, just tight enough to restrict leak.
My large leaks are under 1% now.
Elastic band was as easy to get used to as P10 pillow and foam cervical collar for me.
I tried everything before ending up with this.
I have a full beard. Have had a full beard for 43 years. Not going to remove. I do clean up cheeks for tape application.

Once again. Good luck.
JPB

My periodontist make a mouth guard retainer to prevent me grinding my teeth. This solved my mouth breathing which the head strap full face mask and taping didn’t. I had insurance so not sure how much I actually paid but was going to check with my regular dentist on his out of pocket cost. My retainer is getting old and I think I will need to replace sooner rather than later.

After much experimentation, what works reliably for me:
1. Soaping the mouth and lips
2. Pulling the lips inside
3. Closing the jaws
4. Taping one layer of micropore across the mouth
5. Pushing the lips back out

Some smartypants once posted a picture of a model wearing a BALL GAG.
I can never unsee that!

yrnkrn wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:30 pm

1. Soaping the mouth and lips

How often do you get diarrhea?

Sorry, I wasn't using the correct English term. Soaping the face area around the mouth, lips outward where the micropore will be taped and then washing and drying the area. The process improves the tape adhesion enough so it does not disconnect at all from the lips.

jumbojorbs wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 1:49 pm

Question: Is there a mouthguard out there that prohibits airflow through the mouth when worn?

I was thinking about DeepSleep CPAP accessory from Goldstream CPAP. -->

The DeepSleep CPAP accessory is a simple, effective device that eliminates dry mouth syndrome for CPAP users. The DeepSleep is placed in front of the teeth and behind the lips while sleeping, forming a seal that prevents the flow of air out of the mouth even if the lips are parted. The DeepSleep is tasteless, comfortable, and durable and can help you get a good night's sleep by making your CPAP machine more effective. Please visit us at www.GoldstreamCPAP.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEjmtNrY3v0

I can no longer find them.