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Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 7:57 pm
by jnk...
Jerks? Here? Really?
Man! I have simply GOT to start paying more attention around here.
Why didn't anybody tell me earlier?
Glad I know now.
Thanks!
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 pm
by grayghost4
Lee Rilea wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:38 pm
Delete my membership, this forum it's full of jerks. I thought people might be helpful. All I see is people knocking others. If I wanted a opinion on something I like ill ask for it.
Members here were simply HOPING they could save Earne the OP of that thread $300 by informing him they are useless. Too bad, it was to late for you.

Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:33 pm
by Chris8243
jnk... wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 7:57 pm
Jerks? Here? Really?
Man! I have simply GOT to start paying more attention around here.
Why didn't anybody tell me earlier?
Glad I know now.
Thanks!
Well she did say jerks. No where did she call anyone a menace. Phew. You slipped under the radar this time, Jnk.
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm
by Dog Slobber
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:49 pm
by LSAT
Lee Rilea wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:38 pm
Delete my membership, this forum it's full of jerks. I thought people might be helpful. All I see is people knocking others. If I wanted a opinion on something I like ill ask for it.
There are over 60,000 members of this forum You find one that disagrees with you and that makes this forum full of jerks. Glad to have met you...Have a good life.
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:36 pm
by Goofproof
Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 8:37 pm
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Look to the Left then Look to the Right, if thay are acting OK, It's You!

Jim
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:25 pm
by palerider
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:53 pm
by Becksta
palerider wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 11:25 pm
*ROFLS*
Outstanding.
I love it. You guys are hilarious and have been nothing but helpful to this newbie. Thanks, and keep on making me laugh

Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:14 am
by RonS
For what it's worth, I pretty much stopped interacting here.
Then again, I pretty much stopped interacting anywhere but fb. The people there are so much nicer. Oh wait, they're not. Neither am I.
Snoredog was an ass but he had bona fides. The troll that ruled this place for a year or so changed the forum and they responded way too late to save it for me. It wasn't worth it anymore, it seemed there were no friendships being built here, just a bunch of people sniping at one another.
I used to run a forum; it has to be the most thankless job in the world next to meter maid. But one thing that made me laugh and laugh and laugh were the folks who had to let the world know they were leaving.
I stop by every now and then to see if anything new has come up, and this was the first thread I saw.
Just my $0.02.
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:04 am
by JayDee
Lee Rilea wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 4:38 pm
Delete my membership, this forum it's full of jerks. I thought people might be helpful. All I see is people knocking others. If I wanted a opinion on something I like ill ask for it.

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Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:54 am
by Midwest_non_sleeper
ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:26 pm
Lee Rilea wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:10 pm
I see alot of this attitude in a lot of the threads I looked at. I had hoped to find friendly people that want to help others. I'm just not seeing that and this thread alone is proof.
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Risks:
The residual smell of ozone may be unpleasant and risky. Ozone exposure is potentially dangerous among those with respiratory conditions. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration describes it as a “toxic gas with no known useful medical application.” The Environmental Protection Agency says that relatively low amounts of ozone can cause shortness of breath and worsen chronic respiratory disease.
In fact, ironically, exposure to it may compromise the body’s ability to fight respiratory infections.
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Ultimately, the available CPAP cleaners and sanitizers seem unlikely to provide additional cleaning capacity beyond standard methods of cleaning with soap and water. There is no evidence that these devices reduce the risk of infection.
These companies also have no financial interest in investigating this possibility. The devices sell well without any such study. This may reveal much about the motivation behind the recent push in direct-to-consumer marketing of the product, beyond the science supporting its use.
A Word From Verywell
Further research may be helpful to determine if these devices have any role in routine CPAP therapy. The risk of infection is so small, and the evidence for benefit so weak, that these devices are not currently recommended. Save your money and buy a lifetime supply of liquid dish soap instead!
https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-you-n ... in-4171650
From a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals:
I will give you some facts, and I base the facts on the fact that I am the one who works in the industry of low temperature sterilzation
1. So Clean claims they use the same technology as is used in hospitals. LIE - the hospital ozone sterilizers cost upwards of 100,000.00 and require an O2 farm (a room with 15 to 20 tall O2 cylinders) to provide pure oxygen to extract the ozone. Besides the fact that SoClean lied about this, why on earth do you think a 300.00 device can even come close to what a 100,000.00 device can do. If SoClean was validated to sterilize or even high level disinfect, hospitals would have hundreds of them rather than the 100K devices. The SoClean just does not have the power to do what you think it does.
2. It does not clean. Period. You think it does, place a small dab of peanut butter in your hose and see if it is still there when the cycle is complete. You think this is not a good test, it is the basis of the VA soil test, the test that all medical cleaners must pass or they cannot claim to clean.
3. Amazon reviews - nothing but feel good stories. I have not read one Amazon review that can factually claim that the SoClean kills germs. If you know of one, please post the link because I would like to read it. What is the basis of a 5 star review when all they can go on is they like it? Meaningless.
4. I did own a SoClean on the 30 day trial, when I realized what it was vs. the claims they make I returned it under the 30 day return policy. Why not just get one of the room ozone fans and hang your mask in front of it, they would both do the same thing which is nothing.
I am just repeating the same thing I have typed here about a hundred times; for now on I will just say it is awesome, give the scammers your money, you will love it.
viewtopic/t157842/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 9#p1210375
How dare you Granny, bringing in a fact-based opinion of a Microbiologist and utilizing an appeal to authority fallacy like that.
That's just his, you know, opinion.

Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 7:56 am
by ChicagoGranny
zonker wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 5:21 pm
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 New International Version (NIV)
this offer void for any and all jerks.
Not so.
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https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/bible-s ... loved.html
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:45 am
by palerider
RonS wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:14 am
The troll that ruled this place for a year or so changed the forum and they responded way too late to save it for me. It wasn't worth it anymore, it seemed there were no friendships being built here, just a bunch of people sniping at one another.
I think you're wrong about that.
There's a number of new and relatively new, really cool people here.
djams, babydinosnoreless, katestyles, midwestnonsleeper, dogslobber, okie bipap, just to name a half dozen... and no slight against others that I didn't name. (I'm not awake yet, and hope to parlay that into a bit more sleep shortly).
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 8:48 am
by jnk...
palerider wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:45 am
RonS wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 1:14 am
The troll that ruled this place for a year or so changed the forum and they responded way too late to save it for me. It wasn't worth it anymore, it seemed there were no friendships being built here, just a bunch of people sniping at one another.
I think you're wrong about that.
There's a number of new and relatively new, really cool people here.
djams, babydinosnoreless, katestyles, midwestnonsleeper, dogslobber, okie bipap, just to name a half dozen... and no slight against others that I didn't name. (I'm not awake yet, and hope to parlay that into a bit more sleep shortly).
I think he's accurately describing the past during alphabet boy. I left during that time too.
Re: Bunch of jerks
Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:15 am
by zonker
jnk... wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 8:48 am
I think he's accurately describing the past during alphabet boy. I left during that time too.
alphabet boy was a lesson.
after him, i can tolerate any troll.