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Pugsy wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:11 am

Hallelujah. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:45 am

Yup yup...

So between the two of you. Care to guesstimate how many times you've linked to the "format your charts" instructions?

I did it a few times, then I said "hell with this".

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:29 pm

Perhaps some selection to set up "forum display" at least temporarily change the display with the option of reverting to a user's preferred layout.

Interesting idea to save and restore a user format. Currently we envision a way to select two display formats: a "standard" graph order optimized for CPAP/APAP/BiLevel and an "advanced" graph order for ASV and AVAPS. These two options select which graphs are on the first page -- the one that gets captured when a screen shot is taken -- as well as turning off pie chart, calendar, and right sidebar (which the user can turn back on).

In terms of pie chart, calendar, and right sidebar, the screen capture function turns those off before capturing the screen, then turns them back on. So those functions are retained as the user prefers them. The current release of Oscar already turns off right sidebar and calendar before capturing the window image, but not the pie chart, and restores them after the image is captured.

djams wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:37 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:11 am

Hallelujah. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:45 am

Yup yup...

So between the two of you. Care to guesstimate how many times you've linked to the "format your charts" instructions?

I did it a few times, then I said "hell with this".

hundreds, many hundreds of times... slightly fewer since Pugsy and I did the post/wiki entry...

It's amusing that some people read through that and get it first time ... and others can't manage it even after being led by hand through the instructions repeatedly.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:27 pm

hundreds, many hundreds of times... slightly fewer since Pugsy and I did the post/wiki entry...

It's amusing that some people read through that and get it first time ... and others can't manage it even after being led by hand through the instructions repeatedly.

Based on my experience in some other forums many people today prefer watching a video instead of reading written instructions.

prodigyplace wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:25 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:27 pm

hundreds, many hundreds of times... slightly fewer since Pugsy and I did the post/wiki entry...

It's amusing that some people read through that and get it first time ... and others can't manage it even after being led by hand through the instructions repeatedly.

Based on my experience in some other forums many people today prefer watching a video instead of reading written instructions.

If you are able to put together a suitable training video then put one forward and we can review if suitable. For me it's just not in my skill set

A farther out pair of connected feature requests.

Dreem just released their Dreem 2 headband for the US, and I ordered one.

I just sent a note to their support address with a request that they open their data in ways that would benefit OSCAR and the community around it (so doing on their end what would enable these two features).

But it also includes two feature suggestions (should they follow through on making their data available) for OSCAR.

1. Ability to read Dreem pulse ox data
2. (longer term) support for EEG and sleep-stage data

For many (like me!), this would be extremely helpful. Rather than merely guess based on subjective feel how particular PAP settings might be impacting sleep architecture, this can provide the EEG-based data to demonstrate it.

Issue: In Daily, the min and max of the pressure waveform doesn’t always match the max pressure shown in Details on the left. When I double click at the left of the waveform it toggles between 4.0–25.0 (which is too wide for my data) and the one that should be wider.

Here is one example: https://i.imgur.com/wr6G9jX.png – as you can see, the APAP pressure is 6–12. Max pressure is 9.26, but the waveform goes between 6–8. I might have changed the pressure within that day – I’m not sure. I would personally prefer if the max value of the waveform corresponded to the maximum pressure.

Suggestion: In Notes there is a slider at the bottom that goes between Zombie and Awesome. The problem is if one is feeling 50%. It’s not possible to distinguish from noting 50% and not having noted anything at all. The suggestion is to somehow distinguish between the two, and it would also make sense if there was a possibility to reset the value to unset.

slowriter wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:16 am

A farther out pair of connected feature requests.

Dreem just released their Dreem 2 headband for the US, and I ordered one.

I just sent a note to their support address with a request that they open their data in ways that would benefit OSCAR and the community around it (so doing on their end what would enable these two features).

But it also includes two feature suggestions (should they follow through on making their data available) for OSCAR.

1. Ability to read Dreem pulse ox data
2. (longer term) support for EEG and sleep-stage data

For many (like me!), this would be extremely helpful. Rather than merely guess based on subjective feel how particular PAP settings might be impacting sleep architecture, this can provide the EEG-based data to demonstrate it.

Actually, from reviewing their site, they already do have CSV data export capability for the following data variables. Not enough to construct an EEG graph, but still helpful.

• Sleep duration
• Sleep onset duration
• Light sleep duration
• Deep sleep duration
• REM duration
• Wake after sleep onset duration
• Number of awakenings
• Position Changes
• Mean heart rate
• Mean Respiration CPM

alexander wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:05 pm

Issue: In Daily, the min and max of the pressure waveform doesn’t always match the max pressure shown in Details on the left. When I double click at the left of the waveform it toggles between 4.0–25.0 (which is too wide for my data) and the one that should be wider.

Here is one example: https://i.imgur.com/wr6G9jX.png – as you can see, the APAP pressure is 6–12. Max pressure is 9.26, but the waveform goes between 6–8. I might have changed the pressure within that day – I’m not sure. I would personally prefer if the max value of the waveform corresponded to the maximum pressure.

Suggestion: In Notes there is a slider at the bottom that goes between Zombie and Awesome. The problem is if one is feeling 50%. It’s not possible to distinguish from noting 50% and not having noted anything at all. The suggestion is to somehow distinguish between the two, and it would also make sense if there was a possibility to reset the value to unset.

On the waveform graph, have you over-ridden the default "autofit" for the Y-axis? The graph rather looks like the range has been set specifically to 6 to 8.

Thanks for the suggestion on the "how are you feeling" slider.

palerider wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:27 pm

It's amusing that some people read through that and get it first time ... and others can't manage it even after being led by hand through the instructions repeatedly.

I don't know that amusing is the word I'd choose. Frustrating, maybe.

There are obviously a wide range of computer skills among the users here. And it really comes through when someone is struggling. Just want to reach through the screen, grab the mouse and do it for them, ya know?

My dad is 89, has a computer. But he just doesn't get it. Not even a Google search really. I've had to put desktop shortcuts for him to use for all his websites. When he accidentally deletes one, "I can't get into chase bank. It's gone." He's incredibly frustrated because he knows there's a whole world out there he can't get to. I'm frustrated because no matter how hard I try - he just doesn't get it. For him, the entire internet is comprised of these desktop shortcuts and the news stories linked from the AOL mail home page.

Anyways, this a a fantastic enhancement. It's good for both newbies and experts. Well done.

BlueDragon wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm

On the waveform graph, have you over-ridden the default "autofit" for the Y-axis? The graph rather looks like the range has been set specifically to 6 to 8.

I haven’t overridden it anywhere as far as I’m aware. I tried setting some lower and upper values in Preferences – Waveforms – Pressure, but that didn’t have any effect.

alexander wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:21 am

BlueDragon wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm

On the waveform graph, have you over-ridden the default "autofit" for the Y-axis? The graph rather looks like the range has been set specifically to 6 to 8.

I haven’t overridden it anywhere as far as I’m aware. I tried setting some lower and upper values in Preferences – Waveforms – Pressure, but that didn’t have any effect.

You right click on the name of the graph, then select x-axis.

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 am

alexander wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:21 am

BlueDragon wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm

On the waveform graph, have you over-ridden the default "autofit" for the Y-axis? The graph rather looks like the range has been set specifically to 6 to 8.

I haven’t overridden it anywhere as far as I’m aware. I tried setting some lower and upper values in Preferences – Waveforms – Pressure, but that didn’t have any effect.

You right click on the name of the graph, then select x-axis.

That worked – thanks!

Auto-Fit for that particular night that I posted must be wrong. Also, the max pressure in Details on the left says 9.26, while the graph peaks at 10.22.

djams wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:08 pm

My dad is 89, has a computer. But he just doesn't get it. Not even a Google search really. I've had to put desktop shortcuts for him to use for all his websites. When he accidentally deletes one, "I can't get into chase bank. It's gone." He's incredibly frustrated because he knows there's a whole world out there he can't get to. I'm frustrated because no matter how hard I try - he just doesn't get it. For him, the entire internet is comprised of these desktop shortcuts and the news stories linked from the AOL mail home page.

Years ago, my brother (who is a LOT younger than 89), wanted to know how to get on Facebook. I told him to just google Facebook. To this day, when he want to run Facebook:

• He loads a browser,
• Goes to Google,
• Enters "Facebook" in the Search area,
• Then clicks on the returned Facebook hit.

alexander wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:36 am

palerider wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 am

alexander wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:21 am

BlueDragon wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm

On the waveform graph, have you over-ridden the default "autofit" for the Y-axis? The graph rather looks like the range has been set specifically to 6 to 8.

I haven’t overridden it anywhere as far as I’m aware. I tried setting some lower and upper values in Preferences – Waveforms – Pressure, but that didn’t have any effect.

You right click on the name of the graph, then select x-axis.

That worked – thanks!

Auto-Fit for that particular night that I posted must be wrong. Also, the max pressure in Details on the left says 9.26, while the graph peaks at 10.22.

Show examples.